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| Quote Wakey Til I Die="Wakey Til I Die"=#BF0040I've lost 100% of my income this year so all my expenditure has to be value for money. Sorry but Wakefield Trinity do not supply that at the minute so I won't be getting a season ticket for the first time in a long time, despite my user name. And quite frankly with the mess the club is in and the, lets be honest, awful recruitment that is rumoured, I don't blame anyone for not renewing until some positive signs are seen.'"
That's absolutely understandable - and not just a bit rubbish too - sorry!
But for those that can afford - the question is, do you want a club or not, because if you do, then you need to back the club NOW - whoever is in charge. It's still OUR club.
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| Quote TRB="TRB"That's absolutely understandable - and not just a bit rubbish too - sorry!
But for those that can afford - the question is, do you want a club or not, because if you do, then you need to back the club NOW - whoever is in charge. It's still OUR club.'"
I know what you mean. Thats why I'm getting mine.
I still understand why some arent though.
But your preaching to the converted with me. 
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| Quote TRB="TRB"I can see the reasons why people are hesitant, but if your a 'life long supporter', then you should be supporting the club when it needs it.
Option A - buy a S/T - your money goes in to the club, goes towards the club sorting HMRC and other creditors - allowing it to trade in some kind of normality.
Option B - Don't buy a S/T - the club fail to satisfy HMRC and the bank manager, we go into administration and we immediately forfeit our S/L licence. Bang goes the bright future in the new stadium.
I know the above is over simplistic (not that much), but how would a 'life long supporter' feel if they had played their part in Option B?
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I think some are worried with option C - buy a S/T - the club fail to satisfy HMRC and the bank manager, we go into administration and we immediately forfeit our S/L licence. Bang goes the bright future in the new stadium.
Like you say its not that simple. Were not renewing this time not because of HMRC fears but beacuse of the numerous games we watched last year and said we would not be here if it was not for the season ticket. There was no effort at times and it did not improve. Effort and a loss is fine by me its the Trinity way but no effort in these times its hard to justify the money and time (some people dont live in Wakefield who travel to home games).
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| Quote MR BROWN="MR BROWN"a lot of that is just not right. damien has gone for better brass and we have got plenty of cover for his spot. he was happy enough when i last spoke to him. matty gets on well with jk which i think is well known. the only thing that probrably bothers him is being constantly bagged by some so called fans of young british players. as for latu and gleeson they were never offered contracts. think we all know about tevita and i can tell you first hand sean was ok with wakey when he left. wilkes was offered more money and has never really stayed with any club long. martin was offered more money by cas who then backed out and left him high and dry. drew wasn't offered a contract, deemed to be too old and surplus to requirements. jk was proved right when hudds only got an handfull of games out of him. snitch moved for brass and as far as noble is concerned its nothing to do with his rep its to do with brass. when he was at bradford , they were big spenders. their brass went and so did nobby. to wigan another big spender.now he his at crusaders who didn't have a team till the rfl threw buckets of money at them and if i am right i think he is on a rolling contract ready to move on to the next team with brass. if you want to have a go at the coaching team then do it , don't do it through the players.'"
I think thats bang on and my understanding of all the above transfers.
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| oh go on then ill have 3 ST's please
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| Quote TRB="TRB"I wish people would realise the damage they are doing to the club by NOT buying a season ticket. '"
I respect your backing of the club, the way you fight it's corner and way you are working with the powers that be to deliver a stadium.
I understand that people not buying a season ticket is damaging to the club. The thing is that when buying a season ticket it is not just a money saver for the supporter and money maker for the club, but it is also a trust thing. You are paying in advance and putting faith in next years product hopefully being even better than the last and honestly at the moment it clearly isn't going to be.
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| I have been a supporter for sixty two years and have seen many hi's and low's in that time but the last season is the worst i have seen for not showing the fighting spirit that Trinity have always been renowned for and there fore until I know who the new signings are for next season I will not be purchasing my ST.The club are giving their supporters very little encouragment through lack of any information regarding strengthening the team,even the rumours of who we are signing give us no confidence that we are moving forward in team development.
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| Quote trinfan71="trinfan71"I respect your backing of the club, the way you fight it's corner and way you are working with the powers that be to deliver a stadium.
I understand that people not buying a season ticket is damaging to the club. The thing is that when buying a season ticket it is not just a money saver for the supporter and money maker for the club, but it is also a trust thing. You are paying in advance and putting faith in next years product hopefully being even better than the last and honestly at the moment it clearly isn't going to be.'"
as a Barnsley FC fan and a Trin fan i have acquired the ideas of "follow Blindly" is the best solution.
if i had my way both teams would have loads to spend and be untouchable but it just isnt going to happen. what i dont get is why people are only kicking a fuss up now. its been the same for years.
Truth is whatever happens with regards to who leaves and who comes in, is that WTW have a squad. and watching people put the effort in week in week out. surely everyone on here knows some one who plays for a sports team everyweek who get constantly hammered by the opposition? when you ask them why they do it the answer is always the same "becuse i do it for the love of it" thats why i support WTW because i go to the games for the love of it. which is why my group will be renewing our season tickets
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| Maybe we have not announced any signings because the players that were due to come are now back tracking given the latest news re the taxman, you could hardly blame them.
FWIW, I look at what TRB said like this :
(1) If we are to believe the statement from Diane Maskill then we do not have to worry about the future of the club re the dispute with the taxman and therefore people delaying purchasing a season ticket until they know whats happening on this front and player wise should not be that critical.
(2) I have already paid for mine for next season, but had I known about the tax man issue before I had done, I would have held on, because I like many others cannot afford to lose GBP 185 quid if the club goes under. This is bound to put some fans off as is the lack of any new signing announcements.
(3) If the purchasing of season tickets is crucial to the clubs survival and early purchase at that, then the club should say so rather than making inane "don't worry" statements as they have currently done. This would then make the decision for most fans alot easier (do we want the club to go under or not)
(4) If the club acknowledge that the two most important sets of people they rely on are the supporters and the players, then they would listen better to both sets of people and treat them better. Based on recent postings on here, I would suggest an immediate way to lift some of the gloom would be to replace the current coaching staff, who seem to be arrogantly thinking that their boring one out tactics are ok and it is the players to blame.
It seems to me that if one of the supposed interested parties doesn't come up with something soon, we will be history.
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| Quote nicksapheno="nicksapheno"neither cas or salford have made quality signings. This is what i feel Kear is talking about'"
I wish we had signed players with no quality like Mathers and Luke Patten, and if rumours are true we are talking about the Likes of Fozzard, Higgins and Penny...LOL LOL. TBH we will not attract quality any players with the The board wanting out, the Tax man knocking on the door, no decision on Newmarket and players in contract leaving, we have nothing that is attractive to a player at the mo, what JK said is when players ask where is the club giong to be in 12/24 month's he can't give them an honest awnser because he dosen't know himself, all were going to attract is players who have little chance of making it in another SL team, or players who have maybe 1 season left at the top level who are going to cost a fortune and swallow up the salary cap, but hey-ho what's new, the Club has been poorly run for years and years so it was ineveatable at some point we were going to come unstuck, it is a family concern at the mo and not a business and certianly not attractive to investers or players......

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| Quote TRB="TRB"I wish people would realise the damage they are doing to the club by NOT buying a season ticket.'"
I appluad your loyalty TRB, but i can understand people's decision not to renew, i personally haven't renewed yet, i like many am firstly awaiting a couple of things 1.To see how the club come out of the HRMC meeting on the 22nd. 2. Newmarket 3.Recruitment
Granted decisions like recruitment and season ticket sales go hand in hand, but there is too much uncertianty around the club at the mo, and with not one new announcment and with pre-season training starting in little over 3 weeks time (Mon 11th), it's liitle suprise that fans are not rushing to Belle vue, what would happen if the club went under (god forbid) a season ticket would not be any good if there was no club would it ?. Like i said TRB i admire your loyalty but i cannot afford to lose £400 at the mo with so much uncertianty around Belle vue... 
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| I don't think there is any risk that there will not be a team next season. The main uncertainty we have is a franchise for 2012 which is not helping recruitment nor finding new owners I guess.
October 22nd is the key to all this and following the receipt of OPP I think we will have more certainty and can look forward. We'll just have to put up with the crap until then.
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