Many people have suggested he move to the halves throughout this tournament but i don't see him ever being moved there now as long as Mcnamara is in charge and he is full back for the NZ Warriors.

Is there any chance that he may be moved into the halves for his club side? I haven't seen much of his games this year but most comments seem to be he is poor in defence but dangerous going forward at times.

he's played full back for Years , he's the best full back we have so play players were they play week in week out . I don't understand why anyone would play him out of position unless of course your a leeds fan

No chance he'll play 6 at NZ Warriors. They've obviously got Johnson and i'm sure they're trying to get Foran from Manly.

Because the team as a whole might benefit?
I said before the tournament id have gone with Hardaker at 1, Tomkins at 6 & Widdop at 7. I don't think you miss much, if anything, attack-wise at full back and gain defensively.

Most players aren't playing exactly the same role at international level as they are for their clubs anyway, even when named in the same position so I don't see a problem with moving players between positions where they would excel or have similar skill sets.

Having said all that, if McNamara has nailed his colours to Smith & Widdop then go with it. I'd like to see them retained as England halves until after the next World Cup. We chop & change far too much at international level.

Let's shuffle a couple of players out of position to get hardacker on the team

fwiw I rate hardacker very highly but Sam Tomkins is a much better player

Correct, it's a Leeds thing where Whinos fans will argue for the inclusion of as many of their players in the England team as possible, ad nauseam. If Carl Ablett was in the England squad, they'd be arguing for him to replace Dan Sarginson! Meanwhile, the decidedly overrated Kallum Watkins retains his place in the opposite centre position despite the fact that his performances stunk throughout the whole tournament.

I'm really starting to think he's being wasted at full back. I also think the Warriors was the worst club he could have signed for. Sam plays second-fiddle to Johnson every week and i'm sure it's harming his development. He should have signed for a club where he was going to be the go to guy. Instead he seems to have a bit-part role and only has a chance to shine when Johnson doesn't play. A great season for Hardaker and his position could come under threat (although doubtful with SM as coach)...

His passing game is terrible, why would you want him at 6?

On what evidence do you base that?

I was going to say, if anything Tomkins weakness is his kicking. His passing seems fine to me.

A couple of players? Who's the other one playing out of position?

And yes I'm trying to find a way to put quality players in the lineup so as to benefit the team. You know, what international teams do.

As I said, most players will be playing a different role to the one they play for their clubs anyway.

I knew you would be along first page Billy with this exact response.I could probably have gone word for word.Nice to see you are consistent these days.Keep it up

(*waits for response of Whinos fans being consistent in Whining for player inclusion blah blah...)

Back in the real world, i am making a genuine point with my England hat on that we would be better served with Tomkins moving to the halves where it would allow Hardaker and Lomax on his return from injury as the full back options where we would lose virtually nothing in that position and probably gain another threat in the halves.Like i say, probably hinges on how things go at the Warriors and will be interesting to see how this next season pans out for Tomkins.