We don't know that Cunningham's staying on. If he does it'll certainly throw a spanner in the works of playing Moore. Soliola is a centre who can play back row as cover. Not the other way around. Hargreaves is a solid defender, but he offers very little yardage against the better packs. Cayless is farked and we don't know if the chairman has any intentions of buying a replacement. None of our academy props look particularly promising at this moment (although time may come to our rescue there). I'm certainly not comfortable with this situation.

I suppose since you have your hand slapped on image rights, we are shedding the older player, and we are just plain better than you, you have to come up with scurrilous suggestions.

Didn't your chairman admit on Radio Manchester that Saints were using image rite contracts?





There's nothing scurrilous about the suggestion at all. I just can't remember any player moving from centre to prop in such a short space of time.

Can you?



The last one I can actually remember doing it was Harvey Howard, and it took a few years.

Of late you've been out on a vendetta, I guess I read that wrong... Unless I didn't.

Ruban wiki started as a winger/centre then moved into prop and was a world class prop.



Harvey Howard was always the size of a forwRd when he was a winger at saints.

I mean when he was winger at widnes. He never played for saints.



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I'd forgot about Wiki, but he certainly didn't do it in one season.

Backrowers are forwards and you stated



our forwards are less impressive. At this moment I do not see a potential GB youngster in any of our academy forwards



Therefore i merely pointed out your statement was wrong and saints are producing lots of top class young forwards with the potential to go all the way

So what is it you are saying?? Just come right out with it! Then we all know what you honest opinion is!!



Lets get it out in the open before he pulls on the Leeds shirt!!



In realitiy he was a loose forward who played some centre and was moved into the front row at the start of this season!

I'm talking mainly about props. That said, none of the back rowers coming through are in Burgess' class. Don't seem close.

How many Sam Burgess' or James Graham's come along though? They're outstanding players and it's difficult to reproduce top quality players in that mould. Leeds haven't produced a top class prop forward and neither have Wigan, yet ourselves and Bradford have. For that we can be grateful.



Frodsham is a player who is being touted as a future star, so maybe with time he could develop into a fine forward, we don't know yet.



I do agree we need a prop for next season, but top quality ones are in short supply, certainly available ones anyway.

Indeed. Frodsham hasn't had the good fortune Burgess has to have matured physically at such a young age. Frodsham is a big lad but he still looks a bit like a gangly teenager and at the top level gets knocked around accordingly. Over the next couple of years he should gain a lot of bulk and natural strength and will hopefully be able to make the same impact at senior level that he obviously has in the juniors.



Let's not forget Graham didn't have a Burgess-esque instant impact either. It took a couple of seasons of cameo appearances before he began to make a genuine impression.