Then you're clearly a) stupid or b) being tendentious.





Every Super League club in SL for the period 2009-11 period is there for the same reason as Crusaders: they submitted a winning licence application.

What ? , go bust or relocate to Wrexham ?

go bust

Of course I forgot , they managed to sell it complete with debts before that happened

Good on ya-- Flatcapper. We should never let this go away.

Why two choices?

Yep that's right, the club clearly didn't perform as expected and yet something happened at the end of the season and they remained in the same League as a result of an RFL decision, sound familiar?

Your Club



Our team



Our team didn't perform as well as expected and we were relegated



So not similar at all , if we had moved to Luton and changed 90 % of our staff , then maybe a bit closer



So how did you avoid relegation ?

So your team signed the players up not the club?



Both victim to bad decisions by the owners unfortunately (our previous ones I may add) I seem to remember someone recounting a conversation with their accountant when they mentioned they were going to financially support a club and was subsequently asked about their state of mind but they still did it, I guess they could only see success coming out of it at the time but then it's easy in hindsight isn't it?



Granted the old administration made massive mistakes and quite clearly run up a large amount of debt but given my experiences this year have been better on all fronts I think we may (and I stress may) come out of this much stronger and wiser.



I never said we were facing relegation we were facing something much more serious, but for the intervention of Wrexham Village and the RFL I would not be watching RL this year in Wales (was thinking about Quins being the next closest

)



Yes Crusaders were rushed into SL before they were ready, I cannot see anyone denying this.



Simple question would you rather have seen Crusaders go bust or find another backer in Wrexham?

I have always said that when you think you have ' made it ' that is the day you ' lose it ' , unfortunatley people dont always follow their own advice



In actual fact part of the reason for getting involved was to stop somebody else getting total control



I'm glad that some are finally seeing sense then , it was plain for all to see



I dont want to see any RL club dissapear , we have precious few as it is

It's been going on quite a while now and we still know very little about how much debt there is (Is £3 million accurate?), who ran it up (Is only £1 million of it "historic debt"icon_wink.gif or who it is owed to (Were HMRC paid or not?).



It is, therefore, rather hard to say whether Crusaders really are better run.