I obviously don't see Widnes every week, but your pack looks very lightweight. Is this where your injuries are? Also, Webster was awful tonight, this could be due to the pack losing the armwrestle, but he looked a shadow of himself tonight.

Yep the pack that looked good preseason has been dented by injuries... Haggerty, Pickersgil, Allen and Smith currently absent. Jordan James only seemed to appear for one spell last night which put a greater burden on thing.



As for Webster. If your talking about his former days at KR he is a shadow. However he's not gone bad for us but seemed to suffer with the collective confidence sap that we seem to be suffering from right now.

I don't think you should lose faith, I think you will be int' mix by the playoffs.

To be honest, I'd be surprised if anyone is losing faith after that game. Believe it or not I think there were a few promising signs in that game. We started off badly but our defence improved after the very shaky opening period. We were actually tackling around the legs last night and to an extent slowing the ptb down a bit better.



If we can cut out the mistakes as V4E has mentioned above we will improve dramtically. That and get a few more players back obviously. We will deffo be there or there abouts come the end of the season.

Cullen or Mcormack ??



I'll take the latter thankyou very much

Prepare to be very dissapointed

Gary... Gary.. listen to me.. what have you taken???? This is very important!!! what have you taken??

You're delirious and need to seek immediate medical attention..

Agree with Vikingman, absolute garbage last night. Have watched the under 16's and under 18's recently and they play far more expansive rugby,and put the first team to shame with their enthusiasm.

Leigh's line speed around the ptb totally shut your forwards down. They do it to everyone if you let them, it doesn't take a genius to work out that you need to move the ball quicker and run wider at their weaker, slower moving flanks. The fitness at Leigh is very good and is the reason for their league position, as it was for Barrow last year, however you can only be so fit and the Leigh pack needs to be dragged around the pitch as much as possible to reduce its effectiveness and create room for your own strike players.



Hmmm, perhaps I should have posted this before the match, if Cullen had read it things might have been different...

Our line speed was absolutely amateur. Gifted Leigh easy metres. TKL's tackling was atrocious. We need to get Grady (who did not let anybody down) back in the centres and play real forwards in the pack so we don't get bullied. I think Ford is a class act, by the way.

Left hopelessly exposed by he got stepped by Jock, but there again you could argue that we shouldn't have been allowed to get in the position of taking on Ford on his tod.

The performance last night was embaressing at times, Widnes half back's were never init, couldn't belive how bad Thackery was, Webster shown up by Paul, Ford at full back is terrible, the forwards looked like they didn't want to now, as on numerous occasions the backs were driving us out.



Alot of work needs to be done before the next match.