Armstrong played a couple of games last season. This season he's been on dual reg with Leigh and only got brought back last week due to our injuries.



Eastmond, well let's not talk about that, we all know what happens. Suffice to say, when he has played for us, our own fans boo him.



Foster, yes. He's very good, not denying that ( if only I was 20 years younger <sigh>icon_wink.gif.



Wilkin. Also very good but in his own post match interview 'never a 6'



I never meant any intent when I said we had a lot of kids out. I said our forwards and second row were first teamers/internationals, call them what you will.



But I still say our kids came very good, especially Ashe, who was only given a shirt number two days ago.



Thought some decisions either way were dodgy, but half the refs are aligned with one team or another so don't think that can be an excuse either.



If Hull had Longy uninjured think it might have been different! You would almost definitely have had a drop goal!



Oh and PS: Wire Wonder is a very very bad troll who apparently spends all his/her spare time trying to think up inflammatory comments to rouse everyone. Fun to answer back but pointless

It wasn't a poor team, but it was well short of their best team.

Letting a Saints fan ref Saints, and any hometown referee officiate in a game involving their hometown is a farce. It is one of the many stupid decisions made by the RFL which makes our sport a laughing stock and keeps us as a minority sport.

hmm sounds like you think I'm trying to use the fact Ganson is a known St Helens fan as a reason.



Wrong I just question the fact any ref who is a supporter or has any ties is allowed too ref teams they have some connection too, the fact the RFL has not done what many other sports have done and made it a rule that refs cannot ref games they have ties with is another reason they are an joke.



what I'm saying has nothing to do with what happened today as personally think Ganson is a joke anyway he always finds someway too make himself the of attention whenever he appears on live tv games.

Agree with this - the thing is that Ganson, Silverwood and Bentham are commonly associated with teams and are also the more prominent refs therefore end up with their 'home' teams frequently for televised ties. We need more refs and ones that are better......

Hull FC v Saint Helens



Referee: Mr Steve Ganson (Saint Helens)



So a referee from the home town he is actually refereeing and HIS family hold SEASON PASSES from Saint Helens....



CREDIBILITY = ZERO



RFL you really are a fckuing joke.

Or turned around the other way we were regularly told by many on here, possibly even yourself, that injuries cannot be used as an excuse.

So a couple of decisions in the 2nd half means he was biased??? Lets just forget some of the forward passes he gave in the first that looked fine? No wonder we have a reputation for blaming refs when it is actually true we blame a ref when we should never have been in the position for the ref to influence the game.

whether you blame the ref or not ,the point is Ganson should not referee any match involving St Helens ,full stop ,its as simple as that ,not rocket science is it

exactly, because at the end of the day he is always going to be accused of bias if the game goes like it did today.



can you imagine if me or you or any of our fans became a ref and progressed to that level. could you give decisions against hull, because at the end of the day being a fan is in your blood.



there's plenty of refs to go round, the rfl needs to end the practice of home town refs doing their teams games now

Everyone is forgetting the penalty given against Sharp in the first half when all he did was run back to field a down field kick.

Spot on.



There's no way any ref should ref his hometown team. It would never happen in Union or Football.



Who are these faceless people who decided this can happen?