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| Neither would I, the occasions would be too much for him imo. One mistake early on and it could. F.ck him up for the rest of the game.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"He's played one SL game, one!
Wembley is a massive stage for experienced players nevermind a novice, at fullback you are massively exposed too. No I wouldn't.'"
I know that but i'd be very surprised if Shaul plays superbly well and then gets dropped.
If Whiting was going to be the FB at Wembley he'll play FB in the next few games.
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| Do square pegs in round holes just paper over the cracks ?
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| There have been rumours about Shaul's attitude being questionable, if we let him play the next few weeks and he plays well, I'd question ours as a club if we then turned around and left him out for the final anyway.
At this moment in time my hope is that Horne is fit in time, but if Shaul plays well IMO you have to at least consider him, it's not right to already have the predetermined attitude that he shouldn't play at Wembley.
Talk of Shaul being too risky compared to Whiting is unfair until Shaul has had another go, especially when Whiting made 3 or 4 errors on Sunday himself.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"There have been rumours about Shaul's attitude being questionable, if we let him play the next few weeks and he plays well, I'd question ours as a club if we then turned around and left him out for the final anyway.
At this moment in time my hope is that Horne is fit in time, but if Shaul plays well IMO you have to at least consider him, it's not right to already have the predetermined attitude that he shouldn't play at Wembley.
Talk of Shaul being too risky compared to Whiting is unfair until Shaul has had another go, especially when Whiting made 3 or 4 errors on Sunday himself.'"
He's played one SL game, arguably Wembley is the biggest game of a player's career. Madness to play him.
Why would you question clubs attitude. You don't think Gentle picking a team based on experience would be a sound basis to select from?
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"Do square pegs in round holes just paper over the cracks ?'"
I don't like the idea at all but i'm talking specifically about Wembley. It's a one off game that is so huge you can't afford to take risks.
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| Quote airliebird,runninglate!="airliebird,runninglate!"Horne is himself a good full back n a pivot player of which we could probably do with.
Shaul will get a chance this week maybe next few but unless he's unbelievably amazing then cannot see how you would pick him over Horne in a Wembley final. Leeds Wigan do pick young uns, never seen them do it in the really big games n finals though.'"
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"He's played one SL game, arguably Wembley is the biggest game of a player's career. Madness to play him.'"
Madness to play him without another game. Downright unfair and possibly insulting to let him dig us out of a hole for the league but then drop him for the final even if he impresses. I'm not campaigning for him to play right now, but we should be open to it. Having no intentions of letting him play regardless of how he does in the mean time is just blatantly wrong IMO.
Couple of questions:
If we'd somehow made last year's final, would you have played Lineham?
Briscoe had played 14 games before playing in the 2008 final, where's the cut-off for number of games before being ready?
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"Madness to play him without another game. Downright unfair and possibly insulting to let him dig us out of a hole for the league but then drop him for the final even if he impresses. I'm not campaigning for him to play right now, but we should be open to it. Having no intentions of letting him play regardless of how he does in the mean time is just blatantly wrong IMO.
Couple of questions:
If we'd somehow made last year's final, would you have played Lineham?
Briscoe had played 14 games before playing in the 2008 final, where's the cut-off for number of games before being ready?'"
For me he would have to be amazing with zero errors to be considered for the final.
Fullback is a unique position and one which an opposition team can expose. No limit to games but 4 isn't enough for a position like FB. Wembley can destroy the best of players. Rovers away would be a good test for him.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"I don't like the idea at all but i'm talking specifically about Wembley. It's a one off game that is so huge you can't afford to take risks.'"
Don't disagree about taking risks, but I do disagree with deciding that Shaul is more of a risk before giving him some more games to impress. The 'only played 1 game' point works both ways, as much as he is an unknown and might freeze, he might also cause problems for Wigan because he's unknown to them and play with no fear because of the enthusiasm of youth helping him feel no pressure.
He has to be given as much consideration as anyone else who can play there IMO.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"For me he would have to be amazing with zero errors to be considered for the final.
Fullback is a unique position and one which an opposition team can expose. No limit to games but 4 isn't enough for a position like FB. Wembley can destroy the best of players. Rovers away would be a good test for him.'"
Why does he have to be amazing with zero errors to displace Whiting though, when he made several on Sunday and isn't a fullback?
I'd be more inclined to agree with you if Horne was fit.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"Why does he have to be amazing with zero errors to displace Whiting though, when he made several on Sunday and isn't a fullback?
I'd be more inclined to agree with you if Horne was fit.'"
Whiting also made a couple of breaks, scored a try and saved a try. He has big match experience and dropped into FB at a moment's notice and helped us to win the game.
I like Shaul but to me it's a potential disaster waiting to happen. Lets see how he plays, if he plays but I don't think PG will take a risk for Wembley unless both Whiting and Horne are out.
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