As a Wigan supporter that's just how I feel. During the Noble era I was fed up of the lack of Pre-planned moves as I watched Wigan rely on risky off-loads or 5 drives and a kick. Of course as the play-offs came round the players lifted their game but always fell short because of old fashioned coaching. Maguire has been a breath of fresh air and I was amazed at what he did with the same squad (plus Deacon). Noble was even reluctant to play Sam Tomkins!

I feel that Hull have some great players and if they had Maguire as coach would be in the top 4 of the table. Agar is, sadly, not up to date with modern coaching. Of course, if the off-loads stick, Hull will be terrific but it's a dangerous ploy and can easily surrender possession to the opposition.

I hope Hull get a better coach and the club don't waste their money on players in key positions who are injury prone.

wigan at home should be one of the biggest games of the season. If we get tonked I hope the crowd turn on agar again

Indeed.

I would hope decisions about Fubar have been made, I doubt the result tomorrow or for the rest of the season matter.

Absolutely! If Washbrook has a future at Hull FC (which I doubt) it should not be at half back.

TBF I think Washbrook could make a decent second rower. He looked the part when he first broke onto the season. I don't think a combination of being messed about positionally and our poor coaching set up have helped.

That and being mediocre. We need better than him if we want to challenge for trophies.

Absolutely. Would Wigan, Warrington, Saints , Leeds or Huddersfield sign him? No. Would he be snapped up by an NRL side? No. Would he have a game changing influence for any side in the championship? No.

I fear whatever 17 we put out tomorrow will not be good enough!

Me too, not even coming through for it.

and im still laid on the couch

I'd have gone had I lived in Hull but can't be bothered to drive the 80 mile round trip.