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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"The short turnaround excuse was a poor one as prior to Salford we'd had 2 weeks off and, it seems, plenty of time off from training if I read Radford correctly last week. For me the most disappointing result so far was easily Salford, who we would have beaten if we had shown 80% of the intensity shown in the first two games regardless of what Chase was or wasn't doing. Last night's debacle in the second half was made worse by the fact we'd dominated them in the first half. However with a bench of Abdull, Rankin, Tugut and Feka (possibly the weakest bench we've ever fielded in SL?) we were always going to struggle over 80 mins as effectively we only played with 3 props, one of which might be classed as a 'luxury' player. Regardless of that some individuals should be personally embarrassed with their second half display particularly some of the one on one defensive efforts that took place.'"
It wasn't a short turnaround. So they can stop using that as an excuse. Same time as Hudds to Wire.
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| Are we looking at the latest version of player power? My brother works with a current FC player who wasnt in the side yesterday and when asked what he thought the result would be was told we would get battered. Was that said tongue in cheek or did he know something?
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| Quote Paul Youane="Paul Youane"It was six years ago yesterday since Tony Smith was appointed at Warrington. Prior to that we were a club that liked to believe we could win things and probably had a set of players who were capable of winning things. In those six years we've won three challenge cups, a league leaders shield and been to two Grand Finals. Without Smith I doubt we'd have achieved any of the above. Appointing the correct coach is the key. Radford is I suspect our Paul Cullen.
I know that Brian Smith was available to Salford before Noble was appointed but Koucash decided he was too expensive. On a long list to choose from that still remains Koucash's biggest recruitment mistake at Salford.
Perhaps Pearson should be on the phone to Brian Smith.'"
There was a thread on here preseason that discussed the current abundance of promoted no. 2s in SL head coaching positions when talking about our choice of Radford. You were pointed out as the exception, but I completely agree with you and said at the time that the key thing to point out is that yours was the most similar situation to that which we've now been in for a few years, which was one of underachievement requiring rebuilding. Most of the promoted no. 2s (particularly the successful ones) have inherited strong situations and been asked to continue the work already done, rather than revolutionise a club. You bit the bullet and got an experienced coach with a strong SL track record to do it, we've gambled on following the latest trend without having the groundwork done for him. It was always a massive ask.
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| He gets the next 4 games for me.
Avoid a hammering at Wigan (Which is normal)
Then win 2 out 3 from the following games.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"There was a thread on here preseason that discussed the current abundance of promoted no. 2s in SL head coaching positions when talking about our choice of Radford. You were pointed out as the exception, but I completely agree with you and said at the time that the key thing to point out is that yours was the most similar situation to that which we've now been in for a few years, which was one of underachievement requiring rebuilding. Most of the promoted no. 2s (particularly the successful ones) have inherited strong situations and been asked to continue the work already done, rather than revolutionise a club. You bit the bullet and got an experienced coach with a strong SL track record to do it, we've gambled on following the latest trend without having the groundwork done for him. It was always a massive ask.'"

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| Quote Chris28="Chris28"It wasn't a short turnaround. So they can stop using that as an excuse. Same time as Hudds to Wire.'"
Although Leeds did get an extra 2 days, which might have made the difference between our players being available to play, or not, as it happens.
Or maybe Leeds wouldn't have been able to play the same starting line-up for the 4th game on the trot.
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| Quote ccs="ccs"Although Leeds did get an extra 2 days, which might have made the difference between players being available to play, or not, as it happens.'"
Faire enough, but they looked out of it in the first half and we didn't. After a half time sit down (where they each drank a gallon of red bull and we each drank a gallon of Horlicks) the game reversed. An extra two days rest for one team doesn't make the other team play pat a cake in the tackle either.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"There was a thread on here preseason that discussed the current abundance of promoted no. 2s in SL head coaching positions when talking about our choice of Radford. You were pointed out as the exception, but I completely agree with you and said at the time that the key thing to point out is that yours was the most similar situation to that which we've now been in for a few years, which was one of underachievement requiring rebuilding. Most of the promoted no. 2s (particularly the successful ones) have inherited strong situations and been asked to continue the work already done, rather than revolutionise a club. You bit the bullet and got an experienced coach with a strong SL track record to do it, we've gambled on following the latest trend without having the groundwork done for him. It was always a massive ask.'"
This in a nutshell... sums up all the problems at Hull FC...
Wigan: Wanted Bellamy, but he said "Maguire's ready, been 6 years his Assistant" , they chose Bellyache's judgement.Wigan board gave Madge him the coaching structure he requested.. they saw massive improvements in the first few months..Wane continued with the same structure.
Huddersfield:Nathan Brown same as Wigan.. Laid the foundations.. Anderson continued with the same structure.
St Helens;Same as Huddersfield.
IF Radford left, I can see Last or Horne replacing him... 
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"The short turnaround excuse was a poor one as prior to Salford we'd had 2 weeks off and, it seems, plenty of time off from training if I read Radford correctly last week. For me the most disappointing result so far was easily Salford, who we would have beaten if we had shown 80% of the intensity shown in the first two games regardless of what Chase was or wasn't doing. Last night's debacle in the second half was made worse by the fact we'd dominated them in the first half. However with a bench of Abdull, Rankin, Tugut and Feka (possibly the weakest bench we've ever fielded in SL?) we were always going to struggle over 80 mins as effectively we only played with 3 props, one of which might be classed as a 'luxury' player. Regardless of that some individuals should be personally embarrassed with their second half display particularly some of the one on one defensive efforts that took place.'"
I felt sorry for Radford during the second half, as I genuinely said that there is not any way he went into the team talk at half time in a blase manner and said "we have it won guys you can relax".
Then listening to him post match, it made me mad with the excuses. For a pro team a 5 day turnaround is enough. I could accept losing, but to lose 43-0 in 40 minutes is a complete and utter disgrace. Our much vaunted youth team should be able to step up, if only to a level to avoid such catastrophic capitulation. My mate last night, and a club supporter of many many years with a pass, and also very much in the "stop slagging and get supporting" clan, said that he has just had enough. Completely just sick of the same year after year and if he did not have a pass would simply just watch on FC Live. I cannot say I disagree and am sure many others are feeling the same way. With Allam attempting to destroy us and a general malaise setting in, I am pretty worried.
Not trying to give a knee jerk reaction over this leeds defeat, but I fear already we know what to expect this season. And it will be with less fans, less atmosphere and less emotion.
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| You can't blame the short turnaround, it's an awful excuse....
We had 2 weeks to prepare for Salford and where did that get us??
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| After the dust has settled,and after watching a replay this morning,the 2nd half was acgtually worse than i originaly thought.With the posession we had in the 1st half,a half decent side would have scored more than 12pts.The 2nd half which was roles reversed leeds scored 43pts,the difference is their coach had seen what was required to change the game,can anyone honestly say radford could have come up with a game changer ?
In the post match interview he mumbled his way through and basically had a job completing a sentence.Adam we all know he was a cheap option and you have shown your loyalty to him,but do you not realise its us fans who have to pay to suffer dross like salford and last night.
Radford said last season if he couldnt do the job he would walk well it is pretty obvious to most of us he isnt up to the job and the quicker he walks the better,the only problem is will adam be willing to dig deep to get a decent coach,I fear not !
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| Quote Doom&Gloom Merchant="Doom&Gloom Merchant"The last few seasons have been the worst I can remember for recruitment, for the quality of our coaches, the merchandising, the marketing, the numerous training ground moves and generally, just bad decisions.'"
You have a very short and/or selective memory.
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