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| Quote lummy="lummy"Houghton
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The Talanoa love-in is interesting. Suppose it depends on what you want from your wingers. Good hard yards in the middle and always wins the play the ball but I want my wingers to shine on the wing!'"
That's a ridiculous statement. I played wing and fb and the main area you are taught is to beat the 1st man, make meters out of your own end while helping the forwards out, and fight tooth and nail to get a quick ptb. In doing that theird every chance to gain a penalty. Talanoa is magnificent at this, if you want a winger to shine on the wing, you will find what the wiger does at the beginning of a set can have massive influence a few plays later, that's when the playmakers take control after the meteres made and winger usually then finish. Don't underestimate the dirty work wingers have to do, their more to it then scoring a try
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| Quote Blackandwhiteforever="Blackandwhiteforever"Don't underestimate the dirty work wingers have to do, their more to it then scoring a try'" 100% agree and Talanoa is up there with the best in the league for getting a side on a roll from a kick return he created our first try by getting through the line winning a quick PTB and Houghton took off into the gap caused by Talanoas urgency.
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| Like I said - it depends what [iyou[/i want from your wingers. I stated in my post the same attributes that replies have referred to, I get all that but the big negative for me is that a winger should have genuine pace. Yes the game has changed, wingers offer far more in the middle, Briscoe being a superb example of that but Briscoe can also go 100 metres.
How many trys has he scored from more than 20 metres out?
A winger with real pace would get us 20 trys outside Carlos this year. Lets see how it pans out.
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| The very fastest of wingers will score 4/5 lengthens in a season. Will be asked to finish off from 10/20 metres 10/20 maybe 30 times. Depending on opportunity. Those few where outright pace is needed is outnumbered by the need to be able to finish in a tight spot. To ride out heavy challenges etc. Also weighed against the returns fast ball plays etc etc which can be needed 10/15 times a game then it doesn't justify trading it all in on the speculation that we might score a long ranger
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| Quote lummy="lummy"Like I said - it depends what [iyou[/i want from your wingers. I stated in my post the same attributes that replies have referred to, I get all that but the big negative for me is that a winger should have genuine pace. Yes the game has changed, wingers offer far more in the middle, Briscoe being a superb example of that but Briscoe can also go 100 metres.
How many trys has he scored from more than 20 metres out?
A winger with real pace would get us 20 trys outside Carlos this year. Lets see how it pans out.'"
How often is a winger called upon to go 100 metres though. For me a winger in attaxk should be able to finish everything from within 10 metres, offer a bit of an aerial threat, and carry the ball strongly out of defence. Speed is a nice to have, but there have been lots of wingers with blinding speed who have been useless. For me Talanoa is in the top 10 wingers in the league on a bad day.
And he's got one try so he's already ahead of schedule for those 20 try's.
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| Also apologise if he has but I can't actually remember a time where Talanoa was in a position to go 100 meters. If he was maybe he might not make it but I have a feeling in full flight he may not be as slow as some think
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| Quote Blackandwhiteforever="Blackandwhiteforever"Also apologise if he has but I can't actually remember a time where Talanoa was in a position to go 100 meters. If he was maybe he might not make it but I have a feeling in full flight he may not be as slow as some think'"
I think he will show us how good he is once Carlos and he click together.
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| Quote Blackandwhiteforever="Blackandwhiteforever"Also apologise if he has but I can't actually remember a time where Talanoa was in a position to go 100 meters. If he was maybe he might not make it but I have a feeling in full flight he may not be as slow as some think'"
When Talanoa first arrived he was put straight into the side and obviously not match fit.He was given an early running opportunity to go the full length but was easily caught after 30/40 mtrs.
I think many supporters remember that but as seen last season Talanoa added some pace.
He is certainly not slow just not lightening fast.
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| Bonaire don't know what it is but the last few weeks have agreed with most of your posts lol.
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"When Talanoa first arrived he was put straight into the side and obviously not match fit.He was given an early running opportunity to go the full length but was easily caught after 30/40 mtrs.
I think many supporters remember that but as seen last season Talanoa added some pace.
He is certainly not slow just not lightening fast.'"
Yes I remember that now. You could be right about people remembering that. If you see when he scoots out of dummy half now he looks very sharp and quick, like you say not lightning over 100mts but certainly no slouch.
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