the right decision from the rfl to keep it at 14 teams thinks its to early to go to 16 but going back to 12 would be a step back for rugby league in england. but obviously there are teams who are either not performing on the pitch or off it and the rfl have to be strong and have the bottle to drop and promote teams who deserve there status. super league is a good comp but needs to become even bigger so changes need to be made. can someone comfirm to me that toulose are not eligble and they have to reach the grand final. these would be mine 14 teams at the moment



bradford

castleford

catalans

huddersfield

halifax

hull fc

hull kr

leeds

toulose

st helens

wakefield

widnes

warrington

wigan

let me remind you that this is at the moment things can change for example if leigh get to the grand final or whatever then you could put them in instead of wakey but this is at the moment.

quins - 3 1/2 thousand average crowd not good enough for a top tier league i dont care about were they come from and also they also struggle on the pitch coz not spending to full of the salary cap that should be in the criteria.

crusaders - going from last season and the stability of the club then at the moment they dont deserve a licence but things can change and if they can improve crowds dramatically and are better on the pitch can see them staying to be honest, they have the stadium aswell now. but 3 1/2 thousand crowds just arnt good enough.

salford - poor stadia, 4 1/2 thousand average crowds should be replaced by widnes.

toulose- good stadia, estimate average crowd of 7k, help france develop and would be competitive on the pitch.

widnes - good stadia, fianancally good now, estimate crowds of 7k for first season

halifax - good stadia, 7k average estimate

so thats quins, crusaders and salford out who average 12k at most together but with toulose, halifax and widnes they would get 21 at leaste together.

You are aware that Crusaders 2010 home average exceeds that of Harlequins, Wakefield, Huddersfield and our neighbours?

Bring back Promotion and relegation keeps games more competitive.

Of course, there's nothing more exciting than speculating on the next team to go into administration because they spent money they never had, in the hope of spending more than one year in Superleague

we cant have promotion and relegation at the moment becasue there are to many teams who are not ready and not upto standard for super league. for example barrow would off been promoted to super league this year but there facilites are clearly not upto super league standard

Barrow?



Are you puddled or what?



Workington had the opportunity to fly the Superleague flag for Cumbria. Please tell me, what happened there?

on the back of 1 novelty game against the champions, lets see what the average is in a couple of months time if they've only won say 1 or 2 games. Surely you haven't forgotten the folly that was Paris SG have you? I believe they started with a huge crowd for their first game, wonder what happened to them

first game? didnt they do that last year?

Two seperate issues really. They have to pay their own tax bills, the stadium will (or won't) be paid for mostly by partners - Wakefield Community something or other, I think.



iirc our North stand (just 1 stand, not a stadium) was costed at something like £6M. There is no way the club could raise that themselves. Even if we were making FC-esque type profits (of about £100k, was it last year?), it'd take 60 years to fill the piggy bank.







The massive gap in funding is the reason they aren't up to standard. Even before the end of P&R SL was almost a de facto closed shop, with the same teams bouncing up and down. Making P & R 'work' would mean redistributing money from SL to the Championship, to narrow the gap. Realistically, I can't see that happening. Edit - and as far as facilities are concerned, nobody is going to invest significantly in something that may well only be needed for one season.

Didn't the RFL guarantee when the franchises were first introduced that 1 NL team would be "promoted" into SL at the next round of franchising?