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| would you like to have 2 refs(as per nrl) and do away with video refs(sky games included) or do you prefer it as it is now???
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| Quote forevafaithful="forevafaithful"would you like to have 2 refs(as per nrl) and do away with video refs(sky games included) or do you prefer it as it is now???'"
The arguement is still same with 2 refs. As it is now, players know if they lay on too long they will get penalized, yet they still do. So another ref telling them to get off to speed the play the ball up will only work if the players listern.
Its like players permenantly offside the ref cant controll them as it is so im not sure how 2 will help. Also coaches say refs spoiled the game with too many penalties yet its their own players that constantly give these away.
Id try it, if we can get enough good refs. But as people have said before the bunch we have now are useless so another one on the pitch may not help either.
who know? 
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| No reason to do away with the video ref, as they haven't in AUS. Two refs is good because it means one can concentrate on the defensive side and other on the attacking side and should bring the number of mistakes down.
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| Are you allowed one on here? 
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| The hardest job in RL is the match officials Job, the more help they can get the better , more eyes mean less mistakes in my opinion and so i am for it completely, also the RL are going to pilot a new piece of software that can map out forward passes clearly for the VT ref next season to see how it goes which will be a major boost to mistake handling and management
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| every game should have a video ref..simple as that.....certain teams seem to have an unfair advantage on a regular basis due to obscene coverage of there matches 
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| Quote EXPRO="EXPRO"The hardest job in RL is the match officials Job, the more help they can get the better , more eyes mean less mistakes in my opinion and so i am for it completely, also the RL are going to pilot a new piece of software that can map out forward passes clearly for the VT ref next season to see how it goes which will be a major boost to mistake handling and management'"
What would be the point in that technology? The VT ref is not allowed to call a forward pass.
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| Quote berro's best mate="berro's best mate"every game should have a video ref..simple as that.....certain teams seem to have an unfair advantage on a regular basis due to obscene coverage of there matches
'" if there is no video ref then theres no unfair advantage  then the 2 touch judges(ahem) would be put to better use than just jogging up and down the touchline and maybe waving the flag every now and then(more then than now).
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| Quote forevafaithful="forevafaithful"if there is no video ref then theres no unfair advantage
then the 2 touch judges(ahem) would be put to better use than just jogging up and down the touchline and maybe waving the flag every now and then(more then than now).'"
as for the touchies, you can forget about them improving anytime soon. as there all about 40+...cant keep up with play, have no say in any major descion thus letting teams get away with "line balls" at every ruck.......
senior and hall have an art at throwing momentum balls....what a load of e our touchies are
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| Quote Digby="Digby"What would be the point in that technology? The VT ref is not allowed to call a forward pass.'"
HELLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOO
Don't you not think that if they can get the technology right, the VR might just be able to adjudicate on forward passes?
Personally I have yet to see any benefit from having two refs on the field but what I would like to see is a greater level of communication between the ref & TJs.
Many problems are caused by the referee's ego. I've had experience of a referee telling me "anything you see come on and I'll back you up" - that is always dangerous. I've also had one Grade 1 telling me that as the match was televised, all he wanted me to do was mark touch. When one player nearly had his head taken off, the ref came over and asked what I saw, I told him I'd not seen anything because I was too busy marking touch, as per his command. I subsequently wrote a letter to Fred Lindop, letting him know exactly what went on. The ref in question never got another top game that season and retired early at the end of it.
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| Quote berro's best mate="berro's best mate"as for the touchies, you can forget about them improving anytime soon. as there all about 40+...cant keep up with play, have no say in any major descion thus letting teams get away with "line balls" at every ruck.......
senior and hall have an art at throwing momentum balls....what a load of poop our touchies are'"
And you know all this how?
Thought not
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| Quote forevafaithful="forevafaithful"if there is no video ref then theres no unfair advantage
then the 2 touch judges(ahem) would be put to better use than just jogging up and down the touchline and maybe waving the flag every now and then(more then than now).'"
No unfair advantage with video ref, it doesn't seem to be doing much for the Catalans does it and they have it for every home game.
Touch judges regardles of it being a tv match or not are very reluctant to become involved.... however due to the modernisation of the game and refs and touch judges being linked through mics/earpieces it is sometimes hard to know if they are interacting or not. I did enjoy the sets they sold at Murrayfield which allowed you to listen to the ref etc not sure if they will work at normal SL games though.
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