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| My observation of our conditioning from what I've seen on training days, during games and the injury list is that it's more reliant on weights and strength than actual physical fitness.
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| I recall a few years back the fitness of the side was criticised for being heavily cardiovascular based and not enough emphasis was based on strength meaning teams powered through the defence due to shear size. As ever their needs to be a happy medium.
Out of interest what's Geoff Evans upto these days?
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"Out of interest what's Geoff Evans upto these days?'"
When he was the conditioner it's the fittest I've seen the team in the SL era. The long run of home wins in the second half of the season was down to us blowing teams away in the final quarter.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"Out of interest what's Geoff Evans upto these days?'"
Obviously not still at Shudds because Wane says Lard Patrick is struggling too.
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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"No they have to win more than the SL clubs do and to do that they need to beat a SL club which won't happen!'"
Looking at the other squads, which SL teams do you think you'd beat in a play off situation?
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| We've proved already, with this squad, that we're capable of beating anyone on the day.
Next season the difference between us and Bradford for example, is that we'll be competing in the higher intensity of SL on a weekly basis.
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| Quote Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Obviously not still at Shudds because Wane says Lard Patrick is struggling too.'"
He needs to work on his left hook!
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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"We've proved already, with this squad, that we're capable of beating anyone on the day.
Next season the difference between us and Bradford for example, is that we'll be competing in the higher intensity of SL on a weekly basis.'"
The fact is you won't be competing with most of it. Objectively, on the basis of your squad, the bookies have you tipped to finish bottom and you'd likely be second favourites against any of the Hull clubs, Widnes etc in the play offs. That means you'd have to travel away to two of Bradford, Leigh, London - all MUST win games against full time sides after a tough, demoralising season with the inevitable casualty list.
Go have another look at Wakey's squad and tell me you fancy that.
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"the bookies have you tipped to finish bottom'"
Same as every season then. Just remind me how many times we have finished bottom of Super League...
I'm not saying our squad is world beating but we've had much worse squads and still managed to avoid the wooden spoon. It's a long season and nobody can predict the twists and turns that will inevitably happen. To predict the league order based on a lazy bookies tip before a ball has even been passed is nothing short of stark staring bonkers barking madness.
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| Quote King Street Cat="King Street Cat"Same as every season then. Just remind me how many times we have finished bottom of Super League...
I'm not saying our squad is world beating but we've had much worse squads and still managed to avoid the wooden spoon. It's a long season and nobody can predict the twists and turns that will inevitably happen. To predict the league order based on a lazy bookies tip before a ball has even been passed is nothing short of stark staring bonkers barking madness.'"
Besides, have the bookies actually tipped league position or just shown their liability list in ascending order?
The middle 8 will be tough, and in effect the same teams will be competing in that group year on year. Should a championship gain promotion they'll be in the middle 8 the following year suffering the same 'demoralising season' as the SL clubs have this year.
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| I certainly didn't finish last season "demoralised"!
There was a bit in mid season pre Webster that had me staring into the clouds in my coffee but that lifted well before the end of the season after wins over Warrington, Salford, Widnes Hull FC, Wigan, Leeds etc
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| Any team “going up” will have to strengthen quite a bit if they’re to stay there. It’s all very well having a much bigger SL salary cap but you need to have the money in the first place to be able to spend it.
I can see quite a few of the same teams meeting in the middle eight for the next few years.
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