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| Clubs need to adopt a different mentality to the MPG. Leigh finished in the relegation spot, twelfth, in that there were 11 teams above them. I know Hull KR being above them is slightly artificial, but that is the reality. Rather than being viewed as a one-game do or die, it should be viewed as a second chance for the relegated club (12th) and the team below that (13th) to retain their spot. In reality, their Super League spot had already been lost.
Any guff about Widnes finishing bottom is exactly that, because the season has never been 23 rounds long in the entire history of the game. The season ended after 30 rounds.
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| Quote Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Surprised to see Westerman is going from Wire to Toronto.'"
The official club statement about letting him go to "enhance player culture" tells you all you need to know.
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| I love the concept of the Super 8s, but i think people need to change how they view it to see it for the best.
After 23 rounds, 4 super league teams are demoted and 4 championship teams are promoted. Over the course of 7 games, 3 teams secure promotion to super league, the final promotion spot is decided by the game between 4th and 5th (4th place having home advantage).
Leigh were relegated after 23 rounds, and then had 2 opportunities to gain promotion for 2018
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"The official club statement about letting him go to "enhance player culture" tells you all you need to know.'"
Joe Westerman and Dave Taylor in the same squad. Good luck with that one!
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"Both sides are due respect for how they handled the game - and I thought the Leigh Chairman showed a lot of class; in stark contrast to his stupid mate from Salford, with his big cheque and clown act.
That said, there's a lot of sentimental guff being talked about the outcome of this game; Leigh had a better chance than most promoted clubs of retaining SL and kicking on - but over a season, they failed to do that. And the MPG was lost in large part due to their total lack of discipline, which seems to be in their DNA - so whilst I have some sympathy for any team that is relegated - they were relegated because over a season, they weren't good enough. That's sport, yes?[/quo
The real issue is not about the "sentimental guff", it's whether there should be an all or nothing game, which decides players future, every year.
The year that we played cas was a "one off" and it just happened to be that the two lowest placed club had to play each other in a decider and of course, with any system this could happen.
However, to deliberately set things up and have "everything" up for grabs, most notably players contracts, is wrong, regardless of whether the game makes compelling viewing (which there is little doubt that it does).
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| See Toronto are signing whoever they want however they can without any consequences.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"See Toronto are signing whoever they want however they can without any consequences.'"
I think there's probably quite a gap between who they would want and who they are actually getting.
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| Don't understand all this regarding the MPG that players are put out of work blah blah(Particularly you, Mr Lowes). What's the difference between that and promotion and relegation? Surely the outcome is the same.
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| Quote fun time frankie="fun time frankie"Hampshire has already said he wants to leave and there new signing is going to Warrington'"
And we got big bucks for the pleasure of getting Goodwins signing first, over £100k for someone who has not even landed in the country yet is not bad business IMO- and the guy is far to good for champ rugby, although he was signing for wire irrespective of saturdays result - they needed to replace Hiku
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| Good bit of business! Good luck to him at warrington he's going to need it
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| Ok were relegated. Perhaps if some of the 50/50 decisions had gone our way we wouldn't be. I don't know. Your no try which was given being one of them. The decision to extend Actons ban and reduce Birds could be another factor. But mainly bad decision making, not passing when the pass would have been a try against Leeds. Bad team selection. But hey were down, we live with it
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| Quote Redscat="Redscat"Don't understand all this regarding the MPG that players are put out of work blah blah(Particularly you, Mr Lowes). What's the difference between that and promotion and relegation? Surely the outcome is the same.'"
Exactly what I've been thinking mate. I think the first time I heard the phrase "million pound game" was when you sent us down so its nothing new just a different format.
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