Totally agree Adam the 20 minute spell after half time was a total disgrace they gave up hence conceding 34 points with ease. Loved watching Smith not been bothad to run just ran round in circles and threw ball to the Leeds player. Poptart has some excellent positive tinted glasses on. I need a pair.Only positive you take that shambolic 20 mins spell out of the game then yes it was better, but it doesn't work like that.

I'm not struggling with the understanding at all I do get it honestly, You thought about it last night but went against your natural instinct to put your thoughts into words, and did not want to post it until the YP confirmed your belief, of course you know what your saying, you've copied it from a biased newspaper, do yourself a favour and throw the shovel away.

Jeez, you really do epitomise the saying you can't educate pork. I give up you win, believe want you want because i don't really care enough to carry on a battle of wits against an unarmed man. It's not fair on you.

My word I really do get it, anybody that does not agree with you knows nothing, I shall do my utmost in the future though to aspire to your knowledgeable self, in the meantime do the usual thing on here, when your arguments fall down lob in a few insults.

Ok i apologise for the name calling, that was uncalled for. I don't take any real positives from the fact that again we rolled over horrendously at the start of the half once the going got tough and a few late tries doesn't make me feel any better. You saw it the other way. Fair enough, we will agree to disagree.

One thing totally not related to the thread is the crowd was announced as 4597 i think? I thought there was more than that myself as Leeds travelled in decent numbers but Carter says he always calls it as it is so i assume it is correct. It must have been around 50-50 looking around. Given Leeds is a drawcard game, it was a nice sunny sunday and the Brian Smith factor are we really down to our last 2000 or so fans? If so i worry for the future.

but also MC has dropped the ball a bit regarding student prices. I and three friends had season tickets last year, this year I haven't been able to afford to pay full whack as I'm doing my teacher training. The other two have circumstances that prevent this too but all may have been able to attend with a student concession.



We just need to see this year through really. If what MC says about our cap ability next year then next year's team will be one of the most competitive playing budgets we've had in super league and the fans will all come back as long as the team are competitive on the field in my opinion. A bit of decent marketing wouldn't go a miss either in and around the city centre.



There's been no positivity for trinity fans over the last 2 years really and until the players lift it and dig in i suspect it won't be until there's a clean slate for next season until crowd numbers go back up. That said, I will be doing everything I can to attend in the middle eights as I think it's vital the players receive the support in their attempt to stay in super league. In short, there's not much point or motivation to get me to turn up to Belle Vue until the middle eights because, like our previous coach has said, that's when our season starts.

Yes we are, I've said it for a while. Although form will no doubt put many non season ticket holders from attending, the numbers of people actual willing to part with their cash to watch Trinity are frighteningly meagre and will not enable the club to thrive as a top flight entity. It will always be a struggle bar the odd blip.

I agree in terms of attendance



Leeds brought a lot, which I'm sure MC will appreciate but it does show we are at a low point with crowds, however, if we beat Salford next week (I realise that is a big IF) we could easily draw a lot back in.

If we can show we are going to be competitive in the middle 8 I think the crowds will gradually increase

I agree and i think the Salford game is huge for us. A win under the new coach might just give a little bit of belief going forward and tempt some back but if the same continues, followed by a very tough trip to the south of France shown on sky which i'm not confident about, then i fear attendances for the remainder of the season could be very poor and it has to hit revenue MC's projections which means that player budget might not be as large. Big game.

Our fixtures before the middle 8 are now

Salford (H)

Catalan (A)

Hull (H)

Hull (A)

Warrington (H)

Castleford (H)

Huddersfield (A)



Clearly there are no easy ones after the Salford game so that is key there is no doubt.

Unfortunately Hull have stepped up a bit but we've had good results against them previously so why not.

It will be a big task for Smith and the team to get any wins but just one and some close games where we show some resilience would do us good for the middle eight.

I have just scanned a few comments..shambolic errors, not good enough bad attitude jumped out. We were good enough to beat Cas and HKR at the start of the season, and pretty well so too. St Helens home we were robbed ..then a few injuries and the wheels fell off. We are a mediocre squad but nowhere near as bad as these results. That said the main issue for me is what happens when the ball goes wide. Our centres look all at sea and there sems nobody sliding to cover with them. We are always short on numbers and everyone including Leigh knows it. Even they just flung it quick out wide and hey ho there it is..try