I agree with that, if the cap ever gets raised it could be the down fall of clubs like us, but then they wouldn't be the same sized league and that would be a backwards step

I'm suprised it took so long TBH..

I appreciate we all tend to over-react at times, but remember we have never been able to field a settled side - last weekend we were without Murphy, Blanch, Drew, Stosic, Latu, Petesen & Ferguson, most of whom featured when we were going well earlier in the season. On Sunday we saw Frankie playing his 2nd game, Ronney playing his 1st, and Bibey his first for 8 weeks or so. Come on, cut JK and the boys a bit of slack here, fair play to JK who doesn`t use injuries as an excuse, preferring to say that "1 player`s misfortune in another player`s opportunity"

As fans we should do our part and get behind WHOEVER pulls on a Wakey shirt.

I've read a few posts like these and felt bewildered, I dont think anyone is over reacting calling for Kears head or anything like that but I think people are beginning to look at potential reasons why for the 3rd time in a row we've started like a house on fire and begin to fall away, and why we cant be consistent. Its a reasoned debate and one worth having imo. So everyone up the backsides of the club (not specifically referring to you two, lighten up and allow people to debate over these topics.

Of the two posts you put up I think Bigal was just making an observation and semitone was making what ammounts to a plea to stay off the players' back in what a lot of fans' think is a mini crisis. You right of course it is a reasoned debate and lets hope it stays that way. Critisism is good so long as it is constructive and lessons can be learned from it. But its when it turns into abuse that it doesnt do any good, and I think that is what semitone means.

so correct me if i am wrong, we have lost to leeds, saints, wigan twice, bradford and harlequins..first 4 at the start of the season i would have had as top 4 in super league..harlequins always difficult away. i think this weekend is a big game because it is games like this that i think we should be winning to be top 8.

Don't think it's the losing so much as the manner in which we've played that's so disappointing. I can only comment on the Saints, Wigan, and Bradford games, as I didn't see the rest (thank God). The Saints game I would write off due to the circumstances anyway, but in the other 2 we were poor, looked devoid of ideas and were unable time and again to respond to the same plays that kept shipping points for the opposition. That, plus the extremely high error count, is what's disappointing. We can't exert any real pressure any more. We just don't seem to be in the game.

Bingo, this sums it up completely for me. We are an average (or slightly less than average) side who has over acheived, mainly due to the fact we have played several teams who where also struggling at the time (Hull FC, Wigan, Bradford, Warrington etc).



The whole league is a very poor standard this year in my opinion.

I'm more than happy with the clubs progress on and off the field.



You can't expect miracles overnight, 3 years ago we were buying NL1 season tickets (or so we thought) We are now in the top 8, better squad than we have had in SL and we lose a few games and everyone jumps on the clubs back!



Typical.



FWIW I think this is the most exciting season ever in SL, and if it wasn't for the franchise aspect it would be even better.

On what grounds do you think that???



We have seen a lot of young players been given their opportunity at just about every club this season......this did not happen pre franchise!!! Not at the current numbers anyway!

Because it's less exciting IMO