iPatch or no iPatch, the serious injury list on said surface does seem abnormally high. Add Anthony Watts to it now because has just been ruled out for the season. Done his ACL.

I have yet to see a footballer dragged across the surface of a football pitch or flattened by three 17 stone opponents nor have I seen any NFL player kitted out in anything other than full body armour, so it's not my opinion it's just common sense.

Nobody has blamed the pitch for the injuries just speculated which again is fairly obvious under the circumstances.

Mathers wasn't the only player to make comments after the wakey game and you know it, there where two Widnes players that quickly retracted tweets.

Stephen Wild has also subsequently passed comments following the salford game.

Four players wearing tights, come on that's a joke, it's a mans game for gods sake!!!

2/13 games gone on the IPitch, no sour grapes yet, in the words of your coach you need to man up a bit, because you aren't coping well after two games.

As I said - an increasingly dull mash-up of the Iraqi Minister of Information and Kim Jong Il; give it a rest squire.

I think that “common sense” would tell you that a bit of leg padding would not prevent broken bones or joint and ligament damage in NFL. All the injuries we’ve had on the ipitch, so far, could have happened on a soccer pitch too.







There’s absolutely nothing in any of that which means the ipitch is dangerous. No facts – nothing. Just a load of sad superstition and whining.

It's a pity you lot couldn't give it a sodding rest.

There is one way to resolve this, and it is for the RFL to refuse anyone to wear tights or stockings or a basque or whatever on the Ipitch, because one of two things will then happen:



1. There will be no problems and we will agree that it is the future. The costs benefits for teams are potentially enormous and it leads to a quicker game.



2. There will be problems, and in which case we will agree that it isn't the future, or else the future will involve watching rugby league players in tights.



Widnes have to protect the integrity of the pitch, because they have spouted its potential and spent a lot of money on it. Other games held on it will never match the intensity of a full-on top flight game.



Personally, I will listen to the players who have played on it, not just those fans who take as gospel the Widnes press releases. Players from both teams from the first game moaned about it. That could have been down to the cold and the water freezing. We have had a second game, and it seems that the Salford captain wasn't sold on it, and players felt the need to wear tights.



It may turn out to be a good thing. We'll play their once a year. Come to our place and you'll struggle on good old heavy turf. If it is fast, you will receive a cricket score against one of the top four. Good luck.

The need for tights etc and moaning players was more to do with with the abrasive injuries, although there is no proof that the pitch was not responsible for the others that's why I keep saying speculation.

Youre the one who bangs on about facts, you have none, widnes have yet to come up with any, accept it and stop moaning on like an old woman!!!

You have the ultimate choice on reading this, that would be a shame, but if you don't like what's posted on here, go back to the Stasi controlled widnes forum.

4 players from 34 wore tights. The players that didn't have not complained about the pitch. Veivers said, in an interview on radio 5 live, that he had no problem with the pitch or grazing.

Christ it seems saying anything negative about the plastic pitch is a thought crime.



Big Brother is watching you. Plus plus good.

Read this back to yourself "4 rugby players wearing tights" what's wrong there?

Me me me. i know, its 4 TOO MANY.