It's not a question of condoning the performance but not immediately constantly wanting to push the panic button every time we lose. Why is is necessary to constantly start different threads all saying the same thing. I wonder if we added up the number of members who post Agar out etc.what it would total because I am sure you will find multiple posts by the same people saying the same but under different headings.

All forums of any team that lose you can find the same posts all demanding the ultimate solution replace the coach. If a club did that every time it was demanded on a forum, the average job life would be about a month.

Witch of these super duper players are coming to fev then on duel reg I can't wait....

Joking and banter apart though no way should wakey lose like that to anyone In super league they were just not on the ball today from kick off IMO

Have we been I in the bottom two positions whilst Agar in charge - No.

Has he had to rebuild the squad nearly every season - Yes.

The players he signed for nothing under his coaching did their value not increase to such a point that the money the club earned kept it in existence - Yes.

I would say not a bad report for such a poor coach but why let facts get in the way of your own personal prejudice.

Hopefully Mathers and on today's display Collis.

No iv heard he was offered to stanley rangers but they turned it down haha

Context. In 14 games this season we have conceded 40 points or more on 6 occasions and also 36 against Huddersfield. So in half of our games our defence hasn't given us a chance. That stat is way way too high and you have to question the attitude of the players in that case as well as the structures the coach has in place.

Isn't that the nature of the game nowadays though? Teams can score points a plenty and have been doing all season....



Look....I aint defending today....it was a massive game for us fans....a game we went into with a little confidence after the last few weeks.....we were abysmal.....no doubt about it.....the coach and the players all have to look at that today and work to improve and bounce back against Warrington.....



As one of the 3 favourites for relegation though (in just about everbody's book outside of Wakefield) from the start of the season, and now....is it that much of a surprise that we've leaked points like that in a number of games? Both our relegation rivals have done and still are doing.....even much better quality teams than us have shipped big points....Saints have conceded 40+ twice in the last month....and plenty of other sides have conceded the odd big score here and there....



It was always going to be like this....the aim is and always has been is to beat the drop....we are still very much on course for that.....we have to take the rough with the smooth....there will be more wins....but there will be more defeats like this...I've nodoubt about that....and that's whoever the coach is in my eyes....

Tell you what you can do with your "context", shove it up where the sun don't shine! There is no excuse for today's "performance", and surprise surprise the usual suspects come rushing to Agar's defence.

The context for me , is that we get beaten by the same margin, with a full squad as Bradford have with a patched up, get what players they can squad.

Im not sure you can actually quantify that,as we didnt need to pay a fee to sign the players as they were out of contract and we then made them available whilst under contract.

Applying your theory in reverse Gareth Ellis must have received some shocking coaching at Leeds,they paid Wakefield a fee for him and four years later he went to Wests for ZERO.

Kears performances were BETTER with that side!

I agree that Cas played very well and dominated us like the slightly too soft team we were. What I can't understand is where our urgency in attack and play of the ball went from last Friday night?

The main difference between the two sides all games was the urgency to play the ball and make quick meters to gain momentum running at the line. This was also present in most of Huddersfield's attack today. The whole 80 minutes of our game I saw none in Cas's 20. We never looked like threatening that line and we never utilised Walshaw when we got down there only just to get a few meters in the middle of the field.



So I ask what changed in a few days? The effort was there and the performance wasn't as many are saying dreadful but the urgency and decision making was terrible. The decision making is not coaching all the time its the players making instinctive decisions that cost us a few tries. The urgency in playing the ball is part of the coaching for me as well as the players determination.