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Although I don't think dropping out of Super League would be the end of the world it certainly wont be a positive thing. I think that once we are out we will be out for ever mainly because come the next round of franchises there will be a new far flung place that The RFL want to expand the game to who will be chosen ahead of us regardless of who has the best application.
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| Quote altofts wildcat="altofts wildcat"Although I don't think dropping out of Super League would be the end of the world it certainly wont be a positive thing. I think that once we are out we will be out for ever mainly because come the next round of franchises there will be a new far flung place that The RFL want to expand the game to who will be chosen ahead of us regardless of who has the best application.'"
end of the world..... No
end of any chance of Wakefield having a top level RL team again ..... Yes! |
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| Quote newwildcat="newwildcat"if we don't get a franchise spot?
Like many others I'm becoming increasing peed off with the whole process and cannot help thinking it's a forgone conclusion we'll be playing in the championship next season. The more I get used to the prospect, the more I can see some silver linings.
Getting hammered by 50+ every week is no fun. I bought 2 junior ST's at the beginning of the year and my kids have pretty much got fed up with going to see us get beat and now don't want to come. At least in the Championship we would be one of the stronger teams which would hopefully bring kids back to the game.
Personally, I'm sick of WTW being treated as some kind of leper by RFL, sky and opposition fans mainly due to the franchising process. I think we've been on tv twice this season, I bet we'd get a lot more tv exposure in the championship and they would actually be games we have a chance of winning, which would from a sponser perspective.
AG has already said he is in for the long haul and that the investment would continue should we not get a license. Although it's not got the glamour of SL it would give us time to rebuild, invest in british youngers rather than 2nd rate imports trying in vain to compete in SL.
A year ago I would have said it's SL or nothing but with the off field management we currently have I now feel demotion would not be the end of WTW and we could actually come back stronger.'"
No it's not the end of the world, but if handles badly it could be the start of the end of the world. I certainly can't pick out a single positive all the same. |
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| Quote gowerthegroap="gowerthegroap"Would we?
This is the bit that I am currently struggling to see. I try to look upon our fall from grace with an air of positivity, however as much as I try, I can't. If has been touted on here, the majority of players contracts are null and void outside of Super League, where does that leave us? I don't disagree that the majority of our current squad is probably no better than what some of the current Championship teams have, but the difference being that they already have a squad in place for next season. Come the end of this season players will come and go and their squads will be added to and tweaked, but ours will be decimated. At this seasons end, we will have no license, no coach, a shadow of a squad, and the inevitable fall in income. The purpose of providing Widnes with confirmation of promotion in March was to allow them to recruit and alter the clubs structure accordingly for as smooth a transition into Super League as possible. Should we be told on the 26th as is predicted we will be vacating Super League, how smooth will our transition be? Our coaching staff is still in place until the seasons end, the players are still in place until the seasons end. Realistically, how can we begin what will be a wholesale recruitment for next season with a head coach who won't even be here?
I really don't see how we can possibly be one of the stronger teams in the Championship when we are facing what on the surface looks like an unholy amount of upheaval.'"
I think it's already been said the AG has committed to spending the full SC. I would also imagine that the club are planning for the likely contingency that we will not get a license. Maybe wishful thinking on my part but I think with the some of the youngsters we have plus a full SC to spend we should at least be one of the better teams in the division. |
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Trinity could become the Accrington Stanley of RL if we go down. Not only that in few years time the City centre will probably be awash with to$$ers struting around in Whino shirts.
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The salary in the championship as I understand is £300'000 or possibly £400'000 that is not much to run a full time set up.
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| Quote jack in the box="jack in the box"Trinity could become the Accrington Stanley of RL if we go down. Not only that in few years time the City centre will probably be awash with to$$ers struting around in Whino shirts.'"
Doubt it - kids only want to wear the shirts of the top teams.  |
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| Quote 1948er="1948er"The salary in the championship as I understand is £300'000 or possibly £400'000 that is not much to run a full time set up.'"
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| Quote newwildcat="newwildcat"we should at least be one of the better teams in the division.'"
but what does that matter?
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I believe Halifax, Leigh, Featherstone & Barrow are already spending the full cap in that division. Its only 300K as opposed to 1.65m in SL. Throw in Batley and Sheffield who have settled teams and are very competitve and winning silverware will be far from easy. Assembling a good team within those financial restrictions is a fine balancing act between the youngters and the seasoned pro's. And with three years of championship rugby and no guarantees after that then the chances are any young talent will get picked off by SL clubs anyway. The novelty value of playing different teams will wear off pretty damn quick and people will drift away. Be interesting to see if AG is quite as enthusiastic then.
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| Quote altofts wildcat="altofts wildcat"It is just about doable to run a full time set up on £400,000.'"
But you can only spend that for the first year I believe. After that its part-time players and a lower standard of product. The club has been pushing hard for a licence for a reason. Its where it needs to be. |
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| Quote spook2011="spook2011"but what does that matter?
if you cant compete to be the best... whats the point?'"
Suppose I'm disillusioned with being thrashed on a regular basis, can't get my kids to come watch and want to us to at least be able to compete. |
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