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the ref shouts held when he deems the tackle is complete, if any tackling player(s) still have a hand on the ball carrier 3 seconds after this he blows for penalty. Won't take the players or coaches long to realise you can't hang on forever....BUT unfortunately we don't have officials who can count to 3 as well as look at the line for offside, check for being square at the play and keep count of the number of tackles.......
If the officials all policed the lying on to the same standard it would be a help, but they all seem to have their own idea how to interpret the rules
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being able to count to 6 would be a start....
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| Quote TheGame2012="TheGame2012"I see what you are saying, but its context and deliverance.
HKR have been penalised, mainly because we are not fast enough, or dont possess the ability to slow the ruck down enough and thus on the back foot. As ive seen every minute so far this season, most high shots come from being on the back foot, the holding down ive covered. To answer your question, they should be pinned. If i was coach, knowing how poor the referees are, i would instruct my team to slow down until penalised, if you get away with it why not use it? Wigan did for a few seasons before mastering the art of slowing it down legally.
But now the problem seems to be we are getting picked for every little thing, Silverwood couldnt give 50 pens against on Friday, everyone would moan the game was spoilt, yeah we have controversy with the VR not having his glasses on but you cant penalise every tackle, there should be a line, yes we was bending it, but didnt always break it.
The funny thing about holding down, you could hold down for say 8 seconds in the middle of the park, but if you made a break and wanted to play quick, anything over 5 and your likely in the bin. Where is the consistency in that? Should have a time on it, or a rough count in the head, so soon as the player is on the ground you can hold for x seconds, must be clear by that. Shouldnt be too hard to govern? the idiots with the flags could count?'"
It depends on the tackle. Usually when a player is tackled after a break both players are able to get up within 2 seconds, because there's only two of them involved and it'll most likely be a non-dominant tackle round the legs. On the other hand, in the middle you might have a forward fighting for metres with 3 defenders on him, then hitting the deck after the ref calls held with the defenders coming down with him and getting tangled up. It's common sense that Tomkins catching Hall by his bootlaces after a break is going to take far less time than Peacock trundling it up the middle. As such refs just need to use their judgement as they currently do. |
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After seeing the forward pass again that Hull KR fans are crying about and saying wasnt forward, I would love to hear their thoughts about the short pass immediately before this one, that was blatently forward, and wasnt given.
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I'd be more worried at how Hull KR go from competitive to also-rans just because Sam Tomkins played.
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Hahah, so what another pile of dog***t from messrs. Hemmings, Clarke, Slaphead, etc. Will the ref get an apology? There's about as much chance of our dog saying Miaow.
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Hahah, so what another pile of dog***t from messrs. Hemmings, Clarke, Slaphead, etc. Will the ref get an apology? There's about as much chance of our dog saying Miaow.
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Not sure how a still photo is proof or not of a try- the ball could have been planted firmly on the sideline a split second prior to that shot. You can't look at one photo in isolation.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Hahah, so what another pile of dog***t from messrs. Hemmings, Clarke, Slaphead, etc. Will the ref get an apology? There's about as much chance of our dog saying Miaow.'"
It was never a try in the memory of man but the disallowed one was imo.
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| Quote jools="jools"Not sure how a still photo is proof or not of a try- the ball could have been planted firmly on the sideline a split second prior to that shot. You can't look at one photo in isolation.'"
And it equally may not have... |
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| Quote jools="jools"Not sure how a still photo is proof or not of a try- the ball could have been planted firmly on the sideline a split second prior to that shot. You can't look at one photo in isolation.'"
The video ref has the 'actual time' of the still available to him, he can check exactly where and when the ball touched the ground, it seems he got it right, well done. |
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