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| There was a block of around 150 seats empty in front of me . I was wondering why it was taped/coned off . I found out why when it started raining . The roof was leaking , and it was dripping into the middle of the block .
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| Quote BaldRick="BaldRick"There was a block of around 150 seats empty in front of me . I was wondering why it was taped/coned off . I found out why when it started raining . The roof was leaking , and it was dripping into the middle of the block .'"
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| There were a lot of empty seats, so why were there so many Leeds fans in the 'Wigan End'? I know there is no official segregation in RL because it's a family sport, and not like football, where fans can mix and have banter (we did all that in the pubs before the game) but it still aggravates me when I see 'away' fans in with us. We try to get an atmosphere going, but when a whole block of about a hundred anti-Wiganers are in with us, it kills it. To me, it's not friendly, and it's not tradition: it's annoying and ruins my day.
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| Quote WYSIWYG="WYSIWYG"It was embarrassing to see all the empty seats at Wembley for a dream final Leeds v Wigan. Rugby League is dying a slow death in the heartlands. Within the next 10 years all the best RL players will be over in Oz or defected to RU. P&R must come back. The heartlands must be strengthened. The game must be given back to the fans or the best game in the world will die.'"
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If it was over 70,000 then that is still a good crowd. I was in upper tier behind the posts and most empty seats were in the leeds end. We had 30,000 fans in the stadium, sorry mate but that is a fine damn effort!
Just seems to me you want P&R back and your using Saturday's crowd to somehow validate your point. 
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| Quote Owdpopularsider="Owdpopularsider"The new Wembley left me cold! Looks nice but No atmosphere and that god awfull music being blasted out after the game. Check out the games in the 80's 90's, the atmosphere was created by the crowd at the end of the game. Miles better.'"
Here here!!!! Thought it was just me. It really does annoy me. Is there anything that we can do about it though, other than finding the fusebox? DW is sometimes just as bad. I might write a letter! That'll sort it!
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| This was just before KO. Ignore the Club Wembley seats and draw a line down halfway. Great effort by Wigan, so it's actually not our problem. If a [itown [/ilike Wigan can do it, why can't a big [icity [/ilike Leeds?

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| Quote Loyal o'riley="Loyal o'riley"This was just before KO. Ignore the Club Wembley seats and draw a line down halfway. Great effort by Wigan, so it's actually not our problem. If a [itown [/ilike Wigan can do it, why can't a big [icity [/ilike Leeds?
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And it was exactly the same on the other side. The estimation about 30K Wiganers does seem pretty low when you consider that.
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| Quote SthelensPie-eater="SthelensPie-eater"To put it at wemberly keeps it special but to northen teams being there means that getting there for most people will be hard and expensive especially if its for a whole family to go down, Would a northern venue mean more bums on seats who knows. Also dont forget there is a lot on this weekend for neutrals creamfields, Leeds and reading, Matthews st.
All the being said Wigan end was buzzing and atmosphere was awsome well done pie eaters Back on the perch and backed by the fans.'"
I'd love to meet a neutral who chose the Matthew St Festival over going to Wembley, just to laugh at them 
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| Quote WYSIWYG="WYSIWYG"It was embarrassing to see all the empty seats at Wembley for a dream final Leeds v Wigan. Rugby League is dying a slow death in the heartlands. Within the next 10 years all the best RL players will be over in Oz or defected to RU. P&R must come back. The heartlands must be strengthened. The game must be given back to the fans or the best game in the world will die.'"
Rubbish when I started watching Wigan in the early eighties Wigan got 6K,Hull 8K ,HullKr 5K and everyone else many less.
Attendances are much higher these days. The game is not dying a slow death at all.
Times are hard and frankly less people care about the CC. It's the same with the FA cup in Wendyball.
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| The Leeds end minutes before kick off....(it didn't improve much):

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| What i'd be interested to find out is how many of those club wembley tickets were bought by Rugby League fans, and how many turned up.
I would just like to see what the RFL is doing to encourage them to attend, or sell the tickets back so that the RFL could make use of them to help promote the game.
So say for example there are 12000 club wembley tickets and 10,000 were sold to people who only followed football. What promotion material did they receive to make them aware of the match they could go to? or if they were owned by companies, did they have any encouragement to use those tickets for prizes etc to get people going along?
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| Its got more to do with the decline of West Yorkshire RL rather than a decline or death of RL as the OP suggests.
Hopefully we can have a wigan wire final next year when it would be a guarenteed sell out.
As I said a couple of years ago, unfortunately there is only a handful of teams in RL who can be relied upon to fill Wembley given the increased size and the West Yorkshire teams are no longer them.
As long as we have a final between two of Wigan / Saints / Wire / Hull / Hull KR youll have pretty much guarenteed Sell Outs.
Previously Leeds and Bradford were also on that list but with their decline in form, and loss of fair weather fans, they no longer can pull a significant crowd at a final!
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