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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Who do you think Wane thinks his best full back is?'"
How do I know?
Mango's a God-knows-how-many-times Origin and Kangaroo full-back. Rocky isn't a full-back, but still needs game time. It isn't a simple equation.
I don't say Wane is flawless. Far from it. I worry a great deal about his inabilty to find a more permanent role for Hampshire, and I fear terribly that this will become another Sean Long situation. But it's getting so tired, this habit some people have of finding problems with everything the guy does and says. He's still managed to win us the Challenge Cup and the Super League, which is more than most coaches in the current competition.
For what it's worth, I feel sure his number will be up if we win nothing this year, which looks distinctly likely. But I just wish some folk would give it a rest with the hyper-criticism. It's so bloody predictable and boring.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Wane keeping players on their toes is fine but I still can't get my head round the stubborn insistence that Hampshire is simply a full back. He never seems to be spoke of by Waney as having the potential to come in to the halves which I find strange considering Williams and Smith have both been up and down and Powell has been given opportunities there.
Maybe he'll surprise us and give him a crack there in the coming weeks but I doubt it and I also fear that it then means the lad moves on. He just seems too big a talent to have never been given a real shot at carving out a first team career in his natural position. If he was trying to get in ahead of Blake Green and the 2013/14 Matty Smith I could fully understand it.'"
"...the 2013/2014 Matty Smith" indeed. Like you, I think, I've been a supporter of Smith, but there's no doubt he looks jaded now, and a shadow of the player he was a season or two ago. Why this is, who's to say; does he miss Green? Well, he's a senior pro now, should be able to stand up for himself. Worst of it is, a bit more from him would certainly have helped Williams's game this season, cos he has looked a little lost at times. But I think Wane was right to stick by Williams, and it's to SW's credit that he's shown faith in the lad, because he clearly is a talent. That said, so is Hampshire, and he looked lively last week.
And it gives me no pleasure to say this, but our issues in the halves haven't been helped by the fact that Lockers has been very ordinary on the rare occasions he's played this season, so if were looking to him to add an "X-factor", we're largely looking in vain.
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| Quote moto748="moto748""...the 2013/2014 Matty Smith" indeed. Like you, I think, I've been a supporter of Smith, but there's no doubt he looks jaded now, and a shadow of the player he was a season or two ago. Why this is, who's to say; does he miss Green? Well, he's a senior pro now, should be able to stand up for himself. Worst of it is, a bit more from him would certainly have helped Williams's game this season, cos he has looked a little lost at times. But I think Wane was right to stick by Williams, and it's to SW's credit that he's shown faith in the lad, because he clearly is a talent. That said, so is Hampshire, and he looked lively last week.
And it gives me no pleasure to say this, but our issues in the halves haven't been helped by the fact that Lockers has been very ordinary on the rare occasions he's played this season, so if were looking to him to add an "X-factor", we're largely looking in vain.'"
I was a huge fan of Green but I didn't quite think we'd miss him like we have and I did have high hopes that Smith would lead the way and help Williams a bit more. He's been ok at points but poor at others and that inconsistency hasn't helped Williams. In fairness to Smith I actually think his form has been a bit better of late but Williams has lost form and neither are being helped by a powder puff set of props.
It's the lack of go forward from the props that makes me want to see more of Hampshire in the halves. No halfback can excel on the back of a beaten pack but this lad has that bit more individual threat about him and can make things out of nothing for himself.
Hampshire isn't a miracle worker and he's probably been over hyped to an extent but he's been appallingly under used at a time when his qualities are much needed.
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| Quote WARRIORCRAIG="WARRIORCRAIG"I'd leave out Powell and Tautai but I think it will be Hampshire and Sutton.'"
If Hampshire does not make even the 13 this week never mind the 17 it will only confirm what I have felt for a long time. Wane has told Hampshire in the past that he sees him as a fullback and now when it is obvious Rocky does not feel comfortable in the position, it seems Wane is to stubborn or pig headed to realise that he may have to change is stance.
All this is tied in with Wane saying at the start of the season that he saw George Williams as his answer to the standoff position, he has had his moments in the position but for George who is a natural scrum half it must be frustrating to be used almost as a left sided link player out wide.
That is why I would like to see Hampshire in at 6 and Williams at 7 with Smith spelling MM and for those who come back with "who kicks the goals then with Smith on the bench) Hampshire used to kick goals for fun in the under 19s,
We will now get the response that the Hampshire thing has been done to death, so be it.
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| The problem is that at this stage of the season w still do not have a plan B. All the permutations should have been tried by now. Last year mixing Williams and Rocky up brought something different. For Wane to use Hampshire as a stand off would look like desperation. Hampshire neefs a good run in his best position but given the lack of go forward up front he could always play prop.
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| Quote stillinthepast="stillinthepast"If Hampshire does not make even the 13 this week never mind the 17 it will only confirm what I have felt for a long time. Wane has told Hampshire in the past that he sees him as a fullback and now when it is obvious Rocky does not feel comfortable in the position, it seems Wane is to stubborn or pig headed to realise that he may have to change is stance.
All this is tied in with Wane saying at the start of the season that he saw George Williams as his answer to the standoff position, he has had his moments in the position but for George who is a natural scrum half it must be frustrating to be used almost as a left sided link player out wide.
That is why I would like to see Hampshire in at 6 and Williams at 7 with Smith spelling MM and for those who come back with "who kicks the goals then with Smith on the bench) Hampshire used to kick goals for fun in the under 19s,
We will now get the response that the Hampshire thing has been done to death, so be it.'"
I'm honestly beginning to think that when Williams resigned a new contract it was a clause that if available he would be the primary 6. rocky must be thinking enough is enough by now.
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| No Hampshire in the 17 but Powell is on the bench.
Time to move on lad.
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| Liam Sutcliffe and Ryan Hampshire future Leeds half back combination?..get it on Leeds!!
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| I'd love to know what part of his performance last week warranted dropping from the 17.
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| Baffling selection. Pig-headed doesn't even nearly express my opinion of this incredible choice of line-up. Is it 'play well and you're dropped' for some players?
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| Time to move on for his career and his International credentials yes, sadly I agree.
What is even sadder is the club seem content to limit his opportunities and stall his development and that looks like continuing into next season.
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| Absolute disgrace. Play well and get dropped. Rocky needs to leave for the sake of his career.
I really do give up.
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