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| Quote Coventry Warrior!="Coventry Warrior!"Sorry cant hear you all the way down there in 2nd
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[size=200DO YOU THINK THE SALARY CAP IS A GOOD IDEA NOW [/size
genuine question though, best time to ask you and be taken seriously is when you are top i figured
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| Not for me. I'm not totally against the salary cap but I still think it should work on a system that forces teams to invest in young talent rather than buying from overseas.
I mean at Wigan we can't move for talent (8 out on loan). Why can't all teams be in that position?
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| Quote Wire_Yed="Wire_Yed"[size=200DO YOU THINK THE SALARY CAP IS A GOOD IDEA NOW [/size
genuine question though, best time to ask you and be taken seriously is when you are top i figured'"
I dont think anyones opinion would be different TBH.
IMO the salary cap is 'ok' but homegrown players shouldnt count on it.
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| Quote Bilko="Bilko"Not for me. I'm not totally against the salary cap but I still think it should work on a system that forces teams to invest in young talent rather than buying from overseas.
I mean at Wigan we can't move for talent (8 out on loan). Why can't all teams be in that position?'"
Totally agree. You should be able to spend what you earn and if you bring players through the academy then you shouldn't be punished for it.
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| Agreed. You should be rewarded for bringing young British talent through your ranks. There has to be a change relating to this soon imo. Chris Ashton would be the England fullback now if the Salary Cap didn't prevent us from keeping him. This is where the RFL need to show some common sense for once.
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| Quote Conroy="Conroy"Totally agree. You should be able to spend what you earn and if you bring players through the academy then you shouldn't be punished for it.'"
Thats it. They could claim the salary cap is working if the test side was doing great things. But despite making the final last year, that was a poor test side, really poor! We should never have been in a position were we had to blood so many youngsters.
I hope this dual-reg system can lead to a better pool of test standard players. Only time will tell on that.
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| I do think the dual-reg and franchise system are good things. Sides no longer need to depend on Aussies and can draft youngsters in when needed who have had 1st team experience all season rather than being green.
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| My take on it is that if anyone who comes through said teams academy isn't on the salary cap then that leaves room for big marquee players so surely everyone's a winner.
If your a young player say someone like Myler though playing for another team on any form of pro contract eliminates the freebie aspect if you played for any other pro team.
So what i'm saying is that Widnes would be the only club he wouldn't count on the cap.
Maybe another clause would be that if he was to go back to Widnes he would be free again, technically, only free with the club you signed the first pro contract with.
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| Quote Wire_Yed="Wire_Yed"My take on it is that if anyone who comes through said teams academy isn't on the salary cap then that leaves room for big marquee players so surely everyone's a winner.
If your a young player say someone like Myler though playing for another team on any form of pro contract eliminates the freebie aspect if you played for any other pro team.
So what i'm saying is that Widnes would be the only club he wouldn't count on the cap.
Maybe another clause would be that if he was to go back to Widnes he would be free again, technically, only free with the club you signed the first pro contract with.'"
If a player has come through that clubs academy, only 50% of the wage counts on the cap. Simples.
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| Quote inside_man="inside_man"If a player has come through that clubs academy, only 50% of the wage counts on the cap. Simples.'"
If a player was free though if he came through the academy, the money available to you could then go on a player of say Inglis or Thurstons calibre.
Aussie players win (big pay cheque)
English players win (learning of great players)
Fans win (watching fantastic talent in your home teams colours)
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| Quote Wire_Yed="Wire_Yed"If a player was free though if he came through the academy, the money available to you could then go on a player of say Inglis or Thurstons calibre.
Aussie players win (big pay cheque)
English players win (learning of great players)
Fans win (watching fantastic talent in your home teams colours)'"
I agree but at the same time there still has to be a cap on the amount you can spend, otherwise it still won't limit clubs spending more than they can. 50% is a massive discount, so you can have a top class player from your academy being paid that of a relative youngster still, freeing up cash. Otherwise you could have (extreme example) 5 top aussies taking up the full cap surrounded by endless amount of squad players produced by wigan, some of whom would be earning top dollar anyway. We could probably get a squad of all-academy players in a few years and not a penny count on the cap? If we had this allowance in now, we'd be able to get at least one world class player , even with all the current high earners I reckon.
There needs to be a discount, but not a freebie, just an incentive. Maybe after playing for the club for a number of years the discount gets increased maybe?
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| Quote Wire_Yed="Wire_Yed"If a player was free though if he came through the academy, the money available to you could then go on a player of say Inglis or Thurstons calibre.
Aussie players win (big pay cheque)
English players win (learning of great players)
Fans win (watching fantastic talent in your home teams colours)'"
Whilst I definitely agree with the thought, I'm not sure how legal it would be as you'd be effectively be adjusting a players freedom of contract as he'd cost more to any other team than then one he started off with. Mind you it's still open to debate whether the whole salary cap is legal or not in the first place.
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