You tried to tell someone that they were deluded in thinking that the stoop was much further away than the Hive . You tried to do it using zero local knowledge to prove a point.



I'll listen to what you have to say when you are talking about things you know, but when you try to tell someone who lives in Aylesbury how long it will take them to do a journey by using google from New Zealand then I will tell you that you are talking nonsense.





btw if you were trying to get to Harrow then you were in the wrong place as the Hive is in Edgware.

Including me. I haven't lived in London for 20 years and live in Newbury, before that I travelled from Winchester.



I really do know what I'm talking about on this. To ensure I get to a 7:45 kick off I have to be on the road before 5pm to avoid the worst of the traffic . On a Saturday I have to leave by 1pm for 3pm kick off.

Since when has rlfans been a democracy?

Who wrote that it was? Not me for one.

Feel free to point out where exactly I did that. Shouldn't be too hard for you to find given we're only on page 3.





I don't have to live anywhere near the hive to know where it is or in fact, to type something into google and be given the information I require about the area.





Good for you, but it bothers me not whether you listen or not....







Again with this attempt to make it sound like I was giving advice? Why is that? Does it upset you that your "local knowledge" might not be as useful as you think? I am stunned that millions of visitors hit the capital each year without first "hitting you up" for advice on where to go and what to do









That'll explain the post code starting with H then as well as the fact that The Hive is in the London Borough of Harrow



Slitting hairs and being pedantic won't make you right BTW......it only marginalises you further!



Tell you what though. Get yourself down to the Hive and tell them you'll hand out leaflets and help with the marketing. Not sure if they'll pay you for it though....the marketing budget given to them by the RFL is being used to ask for advice on facebook

Really? What other formof governance lets you vote on things?





on the issue of you claiming that "I'm always right". I have never said I am always right, but it obviously helps the more fragile of you on here feel better by making up about me.



Back on thread







Exactly what "positives" would the OP or the little gang of lemmings like to discuss. The nice new Kit that isn't available yet? The lovely polo-type shirts that can be seen on the players being interviewed by the press that aren't available or even in the clubs colours? That one of our coaching staff is on a leave of absence? That the club have taken to asking for advice on facebook as to how to market themselves and have received an idea about leafleting the locals as the work of Sir Martin Sorrell



before asking for volunteers to help out (what's happening to the RFL provided budget?) The absolute spanking delivered by Leeds? The worryingly familiar turnstile look of our defence out wide in both friendlies to date? The 75 combine attendance at 2 forums at the new venue? The continued lack of on-line purchase ability of tickets to the first home game of the season (10 days away)?



Come on guys, let's have some positives. And simply having a team and somewhere to play is not a positive.,....it is making the best of an extremely bad job!



Come on..get yourselves on facebook and tell the club how keen you are all to get yourselves down to help them leaflet the area.....it's your club after all









Oh...I nearly forgot. Coffee at the hive is 1.80 and not 2.50 as it was at the stoop......there's a really important positive for you all. I feel all warm and fuzzy

I don't comprehend where you get the time or motivation to keep on and on as you do. Nor do I care. 'bye.

Welcome newbie, great first post

Oh noes.....it's another one

Gf the start of this thread was not having a go at you it was a simple request from a potential new fan that you give the negativity a break for at least one thread. Am very pleased that all the way from NZ you want to tell folk how to or not to get to the hive or have a dig for not getting to the stoop.

You are being a rear end!

We get the new fans get it, its all poop, but please try and stop discouraging the new blokes let em decide for thenselves

Oh, but you do. This thread's struck a chord with you. We can tell by your responses.



I saw on facebook a 20 point plan. I presume it was you?

I didn't know this bloke in Aylesbury existed until he started on me Michael. If you want to have a pop at someone, try him or any of the other "watchers" who piped up with their collective 100 posts between them





Come on.....what positives do you want to discuss? There must be some? And I say again, having a team and somewhere to play isn't a positive....it's a bare minimum requirement.



Have to say, whomever is the moderator on facebook has a sense of humour....