Business plans are meant to be realistic, sustainable and achieveable.

Well Dave that is why you glass is always half empty and others like myself it is Half Full! we are making progress with youth rugby & The Academy that was never felt possible at long last, it does not happen over night but with hard work it can and does happen! I have been in many business positions what many have said it can't be done, it won't succeed, but you have to try if you Believe and show those who doubted they are wrong.



No way as a club can we just sit still and never think of progressing and developing, if we do we may as well pack up shop now & forget London with rugby league once and for all, gladly there are many who still say NO! we will not just give in, clubs in the North have been going 100 years plus and still need to grow and develop we are still young as a club so we have to fight on and succeed.

Given that stadia take several years from the identification of a site, and we haven't even looked at which area would want us, or even take us. This business plan should look at this, being 'realistic, sustainable and achieveable' but it seems like it is more Field of Dreams than it is fiscal thinking.



It is good to have a long-term vision, but it shouldn't be a major focus for the club as we should focus of the current licensing period and allow the RFL and someone at the club to look at possible areas. An all-year round and all-community pitch would sell the idea better to a council.

I don't disagree, your glass could be overflowing and the idea of a 15,000 seater stadium of our own within the next 20 years would still be barmy.

I'd be inclined if you said ten years, purely on how long a stadium takes to complete with the planning side of things, but 20 years and barmy seems to be not a case of glass half full or half empty. They say their glasses are half-full are considered optimists. Yeah, but shouldn't we be more specific about the contents of the glass? If it's a glass of sh't, I'm going half-empty. I don't like sh't as an optimist. "Yeah, we gotta half-empty sh't glass right here."



It would be barmy to think that we could not achieve the aim of having our own stadium inside 20 years. Just depends what's in your cup I guess.

20 years ago people people quite probably said exactly the same thing.

...how about Cloud Cuckoo Land?

Seriously, a 15,000 seater stadium is all well and good, but the club couldn't find a company to put on the front of the shirts last season FFS

So your saying it is not possible for the London club to build a 15,000 seater stadium within a 20 period time frame and have it come from a sound business plan. Surely it is possible for the club to be marketed to the people and for the people to buy into the concept of a rugby league club in London, if the club are willing to put in the groundwork now, on the make the public aware angle, not actual digging up the earth.

That is your opinion! and I respect it, even though it amazes me someone who also seems to know something about marketing and business would have such a closed mind and accuse someone of being Crazy!



All things are possible, the past is just that! lets wait and see!

Again, the powers that be have ruined the clubs chances of an increased gate and we're still 3 months away from 2012!! When it was announced the club had plans to change their name, it should have been done within a month, it would have then been in place for the club to try and make some sort of marketing plan at the back end of the 2011 season. Look at Huddersfield Giants, for example, they had plans out in June/July for 2012 where it was £95 for a Season Ticket for the first 2,000 who bought them (iirc), how could Quins do that? "Yeah, come and watch a team with no name, no team colours and no badge" in 2012. It just wouldn't have worked.

Season tickets should have been available towards the end of the season when those on freebies were flocking through the gates. Fine, they won't have bought them there and then, but at least they would see that getting into RL is an affordable past-time and consider it in the future. Now, they have just cleared off, and soon the club that they went to see will no longer exist. Its laughable.

Also, there's two big games in a couple of months between England, Wales, Australia and NZ, the RFL will be hoping for 50,000+ in Wembley, ok, not all of those will reside in the South East but I can bet my life that the Quins marketing team have done absolutely nothing.