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| Pleased all 3 Giants players look to have come through that unscathed.
Thought Robbo did his chances no harm at all, one of the better players for England.
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| This is part of what what i posted on the VT about the pack last night.
This 4 nations should be about preparing for the World Cup, this exiles match should have been about preparing for the world cup. Nothing else matters except for the World cup.
If you are not playing for a world cup place you should be retired from internationals.
Goodbye and thank you Mr Morley, thank you and goodbye Mr Peacock.
The only way you can tell if someone will be good enough for the big games is to play them in big games and see how they go.
Crabtree has done the buisness when given the opportunity so he should be in there along with Graham. Carvell is a workhorse but i feel he is not mobile enough to be a top class international.
The problem with all the other props mentioned is the lack of opportunities they have had in big games to prove themselves. The special ones are not just good props but those who have the extra quality to match the very best. At this level this is about concentration and a winning attitude it is the mindset of winning.
LMS, Mason, Griffin, Mossop, Watts, Patrick should all be given a chance to see if they can step up. All of these should be given a chance in the 4 nations. I would rather lose 3 games but be building a team that can challenge for the world cup
They should have been given a chance tonight.
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| I thought the Exiles weren't really playing anywhere near top gear and looked at times to be just going through the motions......i agree with DG though, we should be blooding the younger/inexperienced lads now and giving them a chance rather than continuosly throwing in the same names and just shuffling their positions around when in the team.
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| Entirely agree with Durham. Morley and Peacock are gone at this level. A bigger worry are Sinfield?, Myler - we had no half backs! No game management again! Wilkin and a few others are not upto it. And MacNamara, clueless!
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| Pity about brough. Think that game would have suited him, and his kicking game would have moved England pack around the field successfully.
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| i think the worst thing that could have happened this week was the fact that wire lost and wigan and saints both drew.( i know we lost, but from what i have heard it is due to a poor performance/injuries rather than losing players to exile game). The top teams might not be as happy next year about another origin type game?and without the top teams support this game wont succeed
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| Quote adelaide-giant.no9="adelaide-giant.no9" The top teams might not be as happy next year about another origin type game?and without the top teams support this game wont succeed'"
And here lies the problem. Football has the same issues. The national game should take precidence over club stuff every time. England needs a game of this intensity mid season. Our national game has many problems but having a game as good as the one on Friday helps to sharpen up the players for the end of season game and helps to work certain combinations out. The Aussie clubs have to do this 3 times during their season so iam sure our clubs can put up with doing it once at Easter (backing up a couple of days after a SL game), and another for this game.
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| Quote Richard1="Richard1"And here lies the problem. ..... The national game should take precidence over club stuff every time. .'"
To you yes. To me no.
if I have the choice between the Giants winning the Challenge Cup or the Grand Final and England winning the World Cup I go for the Giants 100% of the time. Club first for me.
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| Quote Ceebeejames="Ceebeejames"To you yes. To me no.
if I have the choice between the Giants winning the Challenge Cup or the Grand Final and England winning the World Cup I go for the Giants 100% of the time. Club first for me.'"
Clubs should work around international fixtures without question i think. There is no reason why SL should suffer. NRL players have to do this 3 times during their season for the state games. They just get on with it. They might not like it but they get on with it.
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| Quote Richard1="Richard1"Clubs should work around international fixtures without question i think. There is no reason why SL should suffer. NRL players have to do this 3 times during their season for the state games. They just get on with it. They might not like it but they get on with it.'"
4 times fella, the anzac test also affects club games
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| Quote adelaide-giant.no9="adelaide-giant.no9"4 times fella, the anzac test also affects club games'"
Forgot about that game. We cant really moan then can we.
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| Quote Richard1="Richard1"Forgot about that game. We cant really moan then can we.'"
especially as over here they HAVE to miss the week before soo and a lot also miss the weekend after soo.st george were down 7 stars this weekend and lost
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