But those who don't go regularly have their reasons for not going so I don't understand why they would want to buy 5 tickets now. What is the benefit for parting with a load of money. If you offer an attractive discount then I personally think that the only ones who would take advantage would be regular fans who didn't have a season ticket. Someone who does not attend normally is not going to suddenly hand over about £60 for 5 tickets.

Why do people not attend?

a) Can't afford

b) Can afford but not value for money

c) The opponent is not one of the traditional 'top' teams

d) Our team is not playing attractive rugby

e) Working

f) Family life takes priority (If this is the reason what day could you attend)

g) No p&r so games are meaningless

h) Lack of advertising / promotion of games

plus any other ideas.

Then we need to resolve the problem in whatever way we can.

As a major survey would need alot of effort maybe for starters there could be a survey amongst regular fans who could answer the above on behalf of friends and relations who don't go to games.

Sorry, but I think you just don't get it, And You are to negative and accept that there is no future. You say we need to solve the problem but you don't know what the problem is.

OK - so you know the problem and you have the solution...... please share it with us.



By the way, I am realistic - not negative. I just get depressed at the way the game is going, our gates are not increasing, our away following is dwindling and no one has a quick fix to turn it around.



Now tell me what I don't get in your post "[iThe idea of a book of tickets is that someone who can't always get to a game, can decide on the day[/i". What is your planned incentive to get folk to spend money in advance?



I know that if I couldn't get to certain games I would buy tickets for the ones I could get to. I wouldn't buy 5 tickets for future games unless there was a decent discount and if there was a discount it would cost the club revenue.

Please explain why you think a new / lapsed fan (surely these are who we are targeting)would want to shell out for 5 tickets when he or she can't be persuaded to come to the odd game.

Well at the minute if you decide to go to 4 games on the day to sit down it cost £72. Now a book of 4 tickets could cost say £55 so that is a decent incentive to try and persuade some supporters to come more often. NOW do you get it.You see early bird tickets only really benefit those who go any way. No matter how you look at it you must try and make it more attractive to make people to attend who don't often come.

And thats all that matters

bringing back promotion/relegation will help.

Yes I do get it, in fact I have had it all the time.

So, 500 fans take up your idea and buy 4 tickets for £55 = £27500

Now those 500 would have been going anyway which would have been 500 X £18 = £36000

Bingo !!!! we have just lost £8500 in 4 games -





We now need another 472 fans to get the income back to where it would have been.

Bit harsh that mate.



Your theory only stands up if those fans were definatley going to all of those games, but I see your point.



I think the idea of a 'half' season ticket would work, slightly higher price per game than a normal season ticket, but would appeal to more people. Some people can't make games on certain days due to work and other commitments, so a full ST isn't a viable option. But with a half ST a fan can go to games round other commitments and the club makes a slightly higher percentage per game too.

What about people whos shifts means they cant get to all the games, a book of tickets they would buy instead of season ticket.

Its also your bring Bob tickets also, enpowers the fans to help the club get more through the turnstyles

Book of tickets yes. Use by multiPles on the same day no. I agree with 24.7. Giving stuff away isn't really going to attract more and. Pups be a costly mistake.