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| Hate the idea of the play off's as the weekly rounds are so devalued. Well done to leeds they were the best team on the night. I attended 2 league games this season, London and Hull k.r , no intensity in those early round games and scant reward for finishing top.
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| Quote foggy="foggy"
totally und leaving the match last night, been more gutted at loosing Locker Cup games.'"
Me thinks you speak false words.
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| Can't see how you win a league by winning a cup competition. But there you go.
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| Quote foggy="foggy"Champions should be league winners not a playoff competition which is boring till the semi finals.
Correct, play off system rewards mediocrity, hate to say it but Wigan should be champions. Finished top of the league.
totally und leaving the match last night, been more gutted at loosing Locker Cup games.'"
"totally und"...... Really?
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| I dont want to get into the argument about the playoff format again as its been done to death, and I do have sympathy with Dropkicks view that Leeds deserve their trophy. Particularly as 'everyone knows the rules'. But, but, but I wonder whether 5th winning the final again will have a bad affect on the weekly rounds next year ? I imagine supporters may well take the view that they will take an interest towards the end of the season rather than at the beginning. Does it really matter if they lose games during the first half of the season ? Can they expect their best players to be played regularly ? If they are short of cash, they may avoid a season ticket, attend their derby / attractive matches, but miss out on some of the early rounds. Perhaps watch more TV matches ?
I suspect the result this year will drive home the point yet again that the comp. is really all about the last few games, and whilst its good to watch attractive rugby during the regular rounds, nothing really matters until the end of season.
I would hope Wire increase their ST sales for next year after a fantastic year, but I will be interested to see the sales figures for teams like Wigan and Saints and perhaps even Leeds.
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| Quote WireFanatic III="WireFanatic III"Top 5.
There should be more reward for finishing top of the pile.
2 v 5
3 v 4
1 straight to GF'"
This is how I would like it to be. If the SL are bothered about losing a bit of income from the fewer games then add an extra game to the regular season.
The current formula makes a mockery of the regular season & rewards mediocrity.
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| Fans voted with their feet on the playoffs, including Leeds fans, the comp is on the slide, hopefully it can be rescued before its too late.
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| The playoffs never rewarded us for mediocrity in the pre Tony Smith era?
We made the playoffs from 6th, 4th etc but never managed to get reward for it.
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| John Monie once said "Great teams are not great all of the time, but are great when they need to be"
This is a great Leeds side.
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| I have already decided not to renew my season ticket next season so that I can pick my games and save my money for the so called "business end" of the season.
Warrington would have topped the league had they not put out weakened teams against Salford and London, to name two, but there is no due reward for finishing in that position. The weekly rounds are, therefore, denuded of tension because we all know the make up of most of the top eight before it starts.
Surely the idea of a "World Club Challenge" would is to pit the best team fro Oz and this country against each other. To say that Leeds are the best team in this country belies the fact that Wigan were the best team over the weekly rounds, but failed to win an end of season knockout competition. Laughable.
Was disappointed at Wire performance last night, but not devastated at the result. Better team won. But I cannot accept that the countries best team, ie Wigan, pause for retching, are not representing us in the WCC.
Hence my decision. So there!
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| Quote Fatbelly="Fatbelly"Quote Fatbelly="WireFanatic III"Top 5.
There should be more reward for finishing top of the pile.
2 v 5
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This is how I would like it to be. If the SL are bothered about losing a bit of income from the fewer games then add an extra game to the regular season.
The current formula makes a mockery of the regular season & rewards mediocrity.'"
Although I agree that you need to reward the team finishing top, I'm not convinced that's the best way, that will mean they have 2 weeks off prior to the Grand Final and, as people have said, weeks off may not be that helpful in truth.
Having said that, isn't only having to win 2 home games against the teams that finished 4th and 5th (for example) reward enough for finishing top?
Again, I agree the top 8 is too much as you shouldn't finish in the bottom half of the table and be in with a (slim) chance of being the Champions.
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| If you have a great side that doesn't bother to turn it on week in week out, but produces the goods when it matters, then fine. And I think that is what Monie was alluding to. But if you get a side that plays poorly for a significant period of the year, then clicks at the sharp end, I think it's a different issue.
How would we classify Leeds for the last two years ? And let's bear in mind that Wire soundly beat them 'when it mattered' in the cc finals. Surely a great side would have won one, if not both those finals ?
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