lovely overhand right there from TANCW...

Give you that. Replying too much here obviously.



Originally though, someone referring to him as excellent was a little elaborate, in my opinion.

Yeah, and he doesn't do any of the above.

16 runs from dummy half in 4 matches (not got stats for cup), in reality it's probably no more than 240 minutes (if that)



Mickey Higham has 104 RDH from 19 appearances.



14 marker tackles (MH has 85).



There is no stat for wayward pass.

I hate myself for doing this, as stats can be broke down in so many ways, but here goes.



Jon Clarke averaging 1.4 missed tackles a game and Vinny Anderson averaging 1.35.



Not a great deal of difference.

Yeah that pass Jon gave to Briers on his toe last week was a cracker.



Oh and check out meters made, carries and tackles.



Just like old times this.

Not sure where Vinnie comes into this to be fair.

I just knew you were going to mention that pass. (NB we did score from that move).



I have looked at meters and carries - no major discrepancy per game when you think how much rugby Clarke has missed and there are certainly not core aspects of a dummy half's game.



I want my dummy half to get the forwards moving forward and to be tight around marker. I think Clarke does that well, you only see his errors so we're never going to agree. Dummy half runs are good at times. Other players do the hard yards.

I don't only see his errors, and I've even agreed with people over certain aspects of his game, inc yourself tancw. I'm just saying I believe he is the third choice hooker in our squad.



He has played just shy of a quarter of the amount of games to that of Higham but check this ....



Meters 162 - 879 in favour of Higham

Carries 25 - 143 in favour of Higham

Tackles 61 - 411 in favour of Higham

Marker tackles 14 - 85 in favour of Higham.



When compared to Monas it's even worse.



Easy maths really.

But you're not comparing like with like. Clarke was out of action for over a year. And Clarke's game is controlling the ruck, not dummy half running. Just watch him tonight if he plays dummy half. His passing is excellent and the forwards get such good quality ball. He'll be there or thereabouts in every tackle, watching for offloads, taking the player down to slow their PTBs down.

i'd like to help out on this, but i'll be watching out for ryan atkins throwing passes into touch to de-bunk some foo' on the VT

Just refer said fool to try assist stat for centres.

don't worry... im sure saddened will be on soon enough.

Aparently he throws twice as many into touch, this is a warrington fan as well who's saying this.