do puppies breed a lot then?

All you moaning are probably too old to hear it anymore anyway so I don't get the complaining.

and kettle drums with drummers that can drum!

think we need it at home games to get going



think everyone will agree that. didnt we try it without the drum for a home game a few years ago? didnt really work

Yes Mark! Add a tuba and a double bass... And maybe even a glockenspiel!

The club survived from 1879 til the late 1990's without one, and it did ok for atmosphere..

The HJ has a crap atmosphere anyway. Take away something that is capable of coordinating the knuckle draggers in the south we may resort to things like the Poznan and Ultra groups to generate atmosphere, and that's when you know things are bad.

I think any kind of staring at kids, with or without drums is a





As for the whole drums / singing / atmosphere issue. The whole thing is bemusing to me. People go on about it like it's vitally important or as if everyone feels the same. Fans can be stood yards from each other in the same stand but have very different experiences.



Drums - don't like them. Used to be not as bad as they are now but overall, we certainly don't need them and most of the time they are just very annoying.



Atmosphere - will always be variable depending on all sorts of things such as importance of match, loudness of opposition fans, form of team etc. It's quite hard to define and isn't always as expected.



For example, I thought the atmosphere at the Swinton game was surprisingly good, despite it being an easy win and the crowd being small.



I'd like to see no drums at the Saints game -if we get a good game and a good result then I can gurantee there will be proof you can have a great atmosphere at the HJ without any artificial aids.



One last thought - filling in the corners should help alot.

I am going to bring my accordion and help foster a continental atmosphere.



Either that or my Flugelhorn.

Not being funny but all u miserable buggers shut the hell up about the drum. Without the drum the atmosphere at home games is absoloute rubbish. And away games, which i doubt most of you go too, the drum starts everything off and gets the crowd going..... the drums are an added addition to the warrington wolves which not many other fans have.

is that like the underwater stream?

as long as the children don't spit there dummy out like this one, i have no problem...