God you really a neanderthal who is seemingly stuck in the 1970s and has got his coaching 'knowledge' from a Maurice Bamford book. Read the next sentence there is no change of track. You then go on and on about the captain being a 'motivator' (clearly your idea of motivation seems to be in proportion to how much they shout)when that is not as essential as being able to communicate what the coach wants the team to acheive, particularly if a change is requitred during the match itself.



Not very interesting ramble about talking to referees as well; you pick Sinfield out when he is getting a deserved reputation for whining unecessarily to the referee. Referees are only human and a player constantly getting in his ear would sometimes have a very negative effect.



And yes, to the more salient points raised by others, the captain should be on the pitch at all times and should really be a pivot player (ideally 6, 7 or 13) for the reasons I mention above about communicating the game plan.

You really are comical with some of your opinions, i can`t be bothered going into some of the dross you post like your Benji Marshall pearler.



Since you started to coach kids you have constantly come on here and talked down to people as if your some sort of Wayne Bennett of the junior ranks, nobody else knows anything about RL now that your coaching juniors.



Just don`t teach them the IMBRL way to play RL which was your grounding for RL as we don`t want the kids getting disolusioned with RL at such an early stage.

If it's an Aussie, there's not many 'leaders' out of contract. (I don't want to join in the 'what is a leader' debate, i'm going off who I think are sort of leader material in my head alone.)



With the above in mind, and your happiness etc, I'd have a wild stab in the dark at Darren Lockyer ?

Why would a leader/ captain be any better if he played the whole game ?personally i would of thought the opposite be true



Player comes off, watches game from different perspective, speaks to the boss, comes back on, relays information.



Granted any player can do that but coming from the captain will hold more wait with the players

I`m not sure how much of the NRL you watch JWP as ive not seen you comment on it much, a player that would solve our loose forwward problem (of which i believe we have one) and he would also be a great captain and a leader would be Alan Tongue at the Raiders, suprisingly he is still only 28 as he seems to have been around forever.



I`m not sure of his contract situation at the min (they don`t mean much these days anyway) but he is a player i believe would come to England at this stage of his career as his rep chances look probably over.

To tell you the truth Rob, until this year, I've watched it all, then this season I had a bit of mither with Setanta, so I'm trying to be stubborn right now, when the IPL starts, I'll give in you see.



I just thought Lockyer kind of fit the criteria for us really. We don't need the age debate right now, but he's been there, done that, would command respect etc, and Smith hasn't had a problem with age before McKenna, Dunneman, Bai, Millard etc. It just felt like the signing that Smith might see as a big piece in the jigsaw, with other pieces, English fellas, your 'kids' etc around it. Maybe not expressing myself very well here, I kinda know what I mean, it just 'felt right'.



I'll think about what I mean more in a little while.

Bradford - Paul Deacon.



Castleford - Ryan Hudson.



Catalans - Thomas Bosc.



Celtic - Jace Van Dijk.



Huddersfield - Brett Hodgson.



Harlequins - Rob Purdham.



Hull FC - Lee Radford.



Hull KR - Mick Vella.



Leeds - Kevin Sinfield.



Salford - Malcom Alker.



St.Helens - Kieron Cunningham.



Wakefield - Jason Demitriou



Warrington - Adrian Morley.



Wigan - Sean O'Loughlin.

At least half of them, if not more, I've never seen hand out a 'b-ollocking or what you might call inspirational speech'.

Oh the irony of you. You are the one starting a thread berating that the current coach and captain don't know what they are doing. And the basis of your argument is that Adrian Morley (one of the most successful British players ever to play the game) is not a good captain because he doesn't shout and wave his arms about and dishes out bollockings. Genius.



And FYI I have coached open age in NWC, youth, junior and school teams for over five years. Inevitably I must have learned something along the way.



(PS the Benji Marshall pearler was I said he looked like he was getting back to his best in the WC. Seems a very odd thing that you find so amusing).

For the avoidance of doubt it's not irony

The comedy of some of your posts holds no bounds, nobody has berated anyone on this thread as you put it, its in your own mind. Thats the problem with this forum sometimes, people put forward a debate and then quite often they will get branded as berating the club or players......



Its called debate, i have an opinion that Adrian Morley isn`t vocal enough as a captain and you obviously believe he can take us forward in that role, anyway most past GB coaches don`t agree with you, some of the best captains in the history of RL have come from the pivot positions and thats where i would prefer we had our captain at either 6/7/9 or 13.



I mentioned on another thread that someone like Alan Tongue is a great example of a captain, its just a pitty he`s been playing in a side thats been in a transition period for too long now and deserves better. Darren Lockyer is another of a captain thats very vocal and is a great example of a leader that takes his side forward, Cameron Smith is the same as was Andrew Johns. You won`t find many slackers that have played in the sides captained by the above names and got away without a verbal dressing down.



Anyway, ive said all i want to say on this subject.

This is you debating;



"Of course you were lol, with Wayne Bennett confirming that the role of a captain is understated you then change track. "



"Just don`t teach them the IMBRL way to play RL which was your grounding for RL as we don`t want the kids getting disolusioned with RL at such an early stage."



Must be great to be so self aware. Keep posting the smilies!