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| How can you seriously honour a player in the clubs 'Hall of Fame' that has openly admitted taking recreational and performance enhancing drugs during his career? What message or example does that give to any young aspiring rugby player?
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds"You'll be telling me Kevin McGuiness deserves it more next!
Alker played in probably some of our worst teams ever, nobody else even comes close.
Ps - I'm starting to sound like Alkers number one fan here...
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yes, he kept us up
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Why did he never move then ? People say loyalty I would say more like he was made to look the main man in some very poor teams
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No Cavendish Street Beats you to that
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| Is it only me that is really not bothered too much about the whole Hall of Fame thing?
It's not like it has a great deal of bearing on anything. It's a nice bit of fun. Whether Alker deserves it or not...pfff. Not fussed right at this moment in time. Fwiw, I think Alker was solid, loyal and gave everything. He's not quite the legend, with regards to what I'd call a legend, that some feel he is. If he's inducted, fine. I'm more interested to know what's happening now with the Club not romantic memories of bygone days.
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| In my time as a Salford fan (since 199icon_cool.gif, I wouldn't even say Alker is the biggest legend or most deserving of the Hall of Fame from the past 15 years. I'd say maybe Littler, although not of the calibre of some of the players from the 70s, I'm not lucky enough to have ever seen them.
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| I wonder if the club would Honour Ian Blease for what he did for the club?
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| Quote TheButcher="TheButcher"Is it only me that is really not bothered too much about the whole Hall of Fame thing?'"
No. You can split people down the middle on their feelings about sports heritage and such. John Wilkinson wasn't bothered either; he was all about the now and the future. The short-lived Salford RLFC exhibition near The Trafford Centre was largely cobbled together by others. Indeed, rugby league was notorious for a long time for not archiving the game's history. Unsurprising considering the social standing and political beliefs of those people involved in the early decades. I think we see echoes of this today in how there seems to be constant feeling or need to reform the game.
Quote TheButcher="TheButcher"It's not like it has a great deal of bearing on anything. It's a nice bit of fun.'"
When it gets down to brass tacks it doesn't. But I think it's more than a bit of fun. In fact, celebrating the club's history aside, it could be a decent money spinner.
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| I know where you're coming from, Chico. I also agree with all your points. History plays a big part in our game and it needs an outlet, and it's good that the Club are recognising our heritage. My point I suppose was that the Hall of Fame created more debate than nearly any other subject and it has no bearing on what is going on at the Club. I realise people are passionate about it, but can you really trust the judgement of fans on it when the same people are lauding Bobby Goulding as the next Salford Messiah?
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| Mal alker is a great 1 clubman , by dint of his longevity & appearances , but then so is Paul Highton
Whether you would class him as a Salford ' Great ' or worthy of inclusion in some type of hall of fame is another matter . it so subjective .
As it's subjective , I'd put Peter Edwards ahead of Alker in the Hooker position , and it wasn't really Edwards chosen position .
Some players only appeared for a short time for Salford , but .' Burned Brightly '
Ken Gill , Neil Baker , Paul Shaw for example , Garry Jack even
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| Quote middleman="middleman"Whether you would class him as a Salford ' Great ' or worthy of inclusion in some type of hall of fame is another matter. it so subjective.'"
Don't wish to get too bogged down in semantics but you can make a tenuous distinction between a great and a legend. A great is self-explanatory but subjective. A legend doesn't have to be a great but can be remembered decades later, whose story is romanticised while less people remember him as time goes on.
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| Quote Chico="Chico"A legend doesn't have to be a great but can be remembered decades later, whose story is romanticised while less people remember him as time goes on.'"
In that case King of the Shed will be delighted to see a certain Mr N.Baker inducted anytime soon then.
..... and to prove your point I was listening to Brad Fittler's commentary just last season whilst sat on the hill at centrebet stadium, where he said [i"I used to come here to eat hot dogs and see girls "Rabs" (Ray Warren) and watch a Neil Baker kick, hot dogs and girls" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote middleman="middleman"
I'd put Peter Edwards ahead of Alker in the Hooker position'"
And David Highton.
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| I guess while we are in 'limbo' waiting for the new coach to be announced this is a reasonable distraction.
Fwiw, my choices are: David Watkins, Paul Charlton and Chris Hesketh.
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