Rangi wasn't all that at full-back, don't forget a fumbled a simple catch which allowed Hull to walk in under the sticks.



For a game I wouldn't expect us to win due to injuries I think it's worth an experiment.

I don't understand how people can say we won't win until chase has gone. Can I ask how? As some people have stated you can't play him in a system are you mad? Someone please remind me of what happened in the last 10 games of last season? If rangi can't play in a system how did we manage to win 7 of those games? Also what have we been watching him do since last season play off the cuff rugby, no we haven't we have seen him play in a structured and systematic game plan and it has worked. The problem isn't rangi at all we won't start to win anything until we get consistent performances from 13 guys in the middle of the pitch not one person. Rangi is one of the best players you will ever watch, he has a great footballing brain with skills and attributes that not many other sl players have. Yes he has his off days but who doesn't. Your saying we will win nothing with him have you thought about the consequences of him not being in our team. No matter how many systems are in place you CAN NOT defend against rangi's creativity on the ball. You say we will win nothing with him I'm going to say well win nothing without him

I agree.



Chase has probably been MK's best signing. He's done little wrong since he arrived. All this nonsense about structured play is just that. Nonsense. Just look at his stats since he joined us, they're certainly not the stats of someone who stands there as a pivot not knowing what moves have been called. RL is a team game where individuals contribute to the whole. If the rest of the team had been as consistent as Chase has (And I realise he has off days) we'd have had higher finishing places, and won considerably more than we have done.



Leave the 'Can't play in a structured team' to the knobbers who see him twice a year and the former player pundits with weight gain problems and evaporating jawlines.

Someone initially makes a comment and others (who can't think for themselves) follow like lost sheep. It's bizarre just how many people (with no connection to Salford) lay blame on Rangi Chase for Tim Smith not performing at Salford. From what I've witnessed Theo Fages seems to do alright and i'm sure Dobson will when he's fit again.

This I know: several people at work have come up to me and expressed being impressed by the Chase pass: people who had no thought of watching Salford, people who saw RL as clumsy and hidebound, and people who saw that Saints game!

They have no reason to go out of their way to tell me so they have had to be impressed.



Small seeds ...

So many people in my office have seen the Chase footage and passed comment on it.



Wonderful marketing material for the club, that and a couple of bell ringers are what people want to see in RL.

It's had phenomenal coverage...



[url=http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rugby-league/9745367/chase-move-inspires-kidsChase inspires kids[/url

"Salford City Reds"



As always, nearly, just nearly.

Yes, I noticed that, and on SKY.Thought they would of known

These comments really surprise me Butcher. Correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember you suggesting you wouldn't be opposed to letting Chase go so long back suggesting that he was too unpredictable? I think you mentioned or were leaning towards the thought that for the salary he was on it would be better spent elsewhere if memory serves me correct? I totally agree with your comments above however because having that unpredictability surely is a good thing?

I think you're mistaken, mate.



I don't think I've ever said anything like that. If you could find it I'll hold my hand up, but I can't think in what context I'd say that.

not having a dig or anything, I just remember thinking it odd at the time as I actually think you are one of the more sensible posters on here. I'm sure it was when we were going through a sticky patch last year, either way I think its a fantastic weapon to have when your opponents cant guess what is going to happen next..