give over, it's all I've been looking forward to since our confirmation of middle 8s in July

It's unlikely any would play against Australia or NZ anyway. I'd rather have Holmes and McMeekan having a long rest and a good pre-season.

I'm glad Luke Gale is playing as he is likely to be first choice half back and playing the likes of Aus and NZ should improve his game. There would be no benefit to Holmes and McMeekan training for a further six weeks, playing against France and/or Scotland and risking possible injury.

So I'm glad Stevie Ward has been picked, from a purely selfish point of view.

Let's look at it slightly differently, if Holmes was actually any good, hull FC would have signed him already

I'm struggling to think of the last player who moved from Cas to Hull successfully. Westerman was okay, but didn't reach anywhere near the potential he had.

Other than that the likes of Thompson and Arundel have been mediocre.

Classic England

They look ok now, France are hanging on for dear life, trying to stop the flood gates opening

Is Widdop really the best we have in that position?

At least two tries probs 3 from England have all come from dodgy calls in the lead up by Bentham. France in possession and he gives a knock on and it wasnt, the touch that hall claimed is pathetic. Just hasnt given France a sniff. And wonder why the int. Games a joke?? Cooper shouldve been binned after the scuffle too.



Whats an inflated 50 point thrashin full of barge tries gonna teach Bennett?

There was a clear touch from the French player, albeit Bentham missed it.

Watch again and you'll spot it.

That knee to the head penalty was a fookin disgraceful call. Knock on by the England player despite the contact which wasn't horrendous anyway but a penalty. Jesus christ, it has Ganson written all over it, that time he penalised Constantine Mika for 'leading with the head' in a tackle when it was just an accidental clash of head.

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Thought I heard Bentham let slip saying to the England kicking tee carrier that he's got a new job?

Fackng good riddance if so!

Yes there was a touch. Did he play at the ball? Nah. Facing sidewards and it seemed to come off his hip. Its a ludicrous 'rule' then that rewards a bad pass

yep, absolute clear touch.