Oh dear. Reading other posts on here, Long is made good by this rabble.



Wellens – Crap and slow. Briscoe is miles better than him

Gardener – Only any cop because Gidley is his centre

Gidley – OK, but over the hill

Gilmour – Shot it. Will be off at the end of the season

Meli – Rubbish. Always makes mistakes

Pryce – Overated

Graham – Would’nt be any good ion the NRL

Cunningham – Past it

Hargreaves – Others make him look good

Wilkin – Overated, people make him look decent and he isn’t as good as Ben Westwood

Puletua – NRL reject

Flannery – Nothing player



He must be some player. Or is it the red and white eye specs that can’t see quality.

What are you on about? That's the complete opposite of what I was getting at. My point was that it's the quality of those players around him that allow Long to shine as he does. Or do you think he'll be just as good in Hull's team?

Brett Kimmorely is running the show in Aus so it can't be that much of a factor. You forget that with age comes exeperience and the experience helps make some better players.

Newlove didn't last 6 games if I'm correct.

Because the original point was absurd.



If I had a pound every time someone mentions 'ere, he's only any cop 'cos Saints make 'im look good,' I'd be a rich man.



It has been said for just about every player in the Saints team.



To apply this argument to Sean Long is pure stupidity when you take into account:



A) The amount of big games he has helped Saints win

B) His individual honours from those games (e.g 3 time Lance Todd trophy winner)

C) That he came into the Saints team when the wheels were falling off and Fat Bob was on his way.



Sean Long was an integral part of Saints success, and his ability and experience will benefit Hull.

Newlove had a serious foot injury from what I can remember.

I appreciate the general argument here is whether Sean Long is right for Hull FC but what about the other angle? Is Hull FC right for Sean Long?

I laugh so hard I cry.

So do you honestly think Long will be just as good at Hull as he is/has been at Saints? Over the past 10 years Saints have had a special group of players playing together at one time, you can't just break that apart and expect them to be just as good with mediocre players.



And for the record, I'm not one of those people who says "'ere, he's only any cop 'cos Saints make 'im look good" (nice phonetics though). Sean Long is a class player but the other class players he's had around him add an extra 15% to his game, in my opinion.

as posted on our board, Long's appearance record since 2003



SL Games played last 6 years

2009 12 out of 14

2008 23

2007 17

2006 22

2005 20

2004 12 (year he got a ban??)

2003 28



there are loads of players with worse records than that



I personally think it'll be a good signing, as we are desperately lacking a game break and a leader.

Dobbo's going nowhere.

Mediocre players that behind leeds and saints have been the most successful squad in the last 4 seasons. We need a leader and playmaker, we've signed one of the best. Knocking on or not, he's exactly what Hull need.