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| Quote Nev0807="Nev0807"The article is from 2007. I can't find the original link as it's now gone from the website.
You can see why he said he wants to stay in England and doesn't want to go back to NZ.'"
Pretty hard not to feel inspired by that.
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Quote oxford-pie-eater="oxford-pie-eater"McBanana explains all on the beeb - news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 200328.stm
...and his summation of what Chase will add to the England team:
"He's (Rangi) got something different to a lot of most players. He's certainaly a very attacking player; brings a lot of new dimensions to some things we could possibly do if he makes the team, and would certainly make an impact."
Well, I guess he's entirely unique then - cos we have nobody who can attack or offer anything a bit different?! Don't get a job in marketing or PR, will ya Steve!'"
That's an unfair summation of what he said. Implying that he has something different to other players (which is entirely justified) and then making the connection that it is because he is an attacking player and they aren't is a connection you have made not him.
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Quote oxford-pie-eater="oxford-pie-eater"McBanana explains all on the beeb - news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 200328.stm
...and his summation of what Chase will add to the England team:
"He's (Rangi) got something different to a lot of most players. He's certainaly a very attacking player; brings a lot of new dimensions to some things we could possibly do if he makes the team, and would certainly make an impact."
Well, I guess he's entirely unique then - cos we have nobody who can attack or offer anything a bit different?! Don't get a job in marketing or PR, will ya Steve!'"
That's an unfair summation of what he said. Implying that he has something different to other players (which is entirely justified) and then making the connection that it is because he is an attacking player and they aren't is a connection you have made not him.
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| Quote oxford-pie-eater="oxford-pie-eater" =#0000FF:3bfinjjdDon't get a job in marketing or PR, will ya Steve Get him in the government - he talks as much waffle as they do.
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| Quote jimmys sidestep="jimmys sidestep"
McNamarra's 'reasoning' is very crindgeworthy tbh. If he just used the 'best players available line' would gain a bit more respect but trying to justify Chase's 'Englishness' and how it still aides youth development is just showing him up as a clown even further!
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| And to think I was looking forward to hearing his thinking behind Rangi's selection...
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| Quote J20="J20"I do presume you carried on reading to where it says, FIFA put an end to that in the 60's?'"
I thought I'd just mention the bits that suit my own argument like everyone else on here!
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| Sporting nationality is about much more than places and dates, where were you born, how long did you live in this place or that.
It's about feeling like you belong somewhere, like you want to represent that place on a sports field.
If Rangi Chase genuinely feels that he's English and the RLIF rules say he's entitled to do so, I've no problem with him pulling on and England shirt. I'd feel the same way if Gareth Widdop had said he felt more Australian than English and declined to play for England.
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| Quote oxford-pie-eater="oxford-pie-eater"He's quoted, word for word? Sorry for making a connection between two things that have come out of his mouth, one after the other! How would you interpret what he says?
My point being, when you attempt to sell an idea or concept, you normally fall back on what is unique about it, and how it's going to add to what you've already got. If what you're saying is differnet about him, is that he's different, that doesn't really work. You might as well say, he's different because he's a kiwi.'"
Right. I was hoping you'd say that. Because in your quote, you make out that he made the sentence that Chase brought something new to the squad, and then in the next sentence went on about his attacking abilities and you yourself have made the implication that one follows on from the other whereas it is reasonable to assume they didn't.
It's a classic case of someone trying too hard to find fault in someone where none exists.
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| Quote Chris Dalton="Chris Dalton"Right. I was hoping you'd say that. Because in your quote, you make out that he made the sentence that Chase brought something new to the squad, and then in the next sentence went on about his attacking abilities and you yourself have made the implication that one follows on from the other whereas it is reasonable to assume they didn't.
It's a classic case of someone trying too hard to find fault in someone where none exists.'"
Sorry. "Reasonable to assume?" You don't have to "assume" anything - just watch the video.
Fortnuately, I have better things to do than look for reasons to find fault in McNamara, and he does a good enough job of providing them on a plate anyhow

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| Quote oxford-pie-eater="oxford-pie-eater"Sorry. "Reasonable to assume?" You don't have to "assume" anything - just watch the video.
Fortnuately, I have better things to do than look for reasons to find fault in McNamara, and he does a good enough job of providing them on a plate anyhow
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Then stop doing it.
I'm sure you speak with all the wit and sophistication of Oscar Wilde btw.
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