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| I wonder just what would have happened to our domestic game and the "heartland" clubs especially if, in 1941, the government of the day declared the game illegal and sized all its assets?
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"I wonder just what would have happened to our domestic game and the "heartland" clubs especially if, in 1941, the government of the day declared the game illegal and sized all its assets?'"
So you are questioning what would have happened to RL if we had lost the 2 nd world war ?
I doubt we would have cared
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| Quote NS="NS"not even close...
[urlhttp://www.citypopulation.de/php/uk-england-yorkshireandthehumber.php[/url
Hull 243,000
Leeds 443,000
Wigan 81,000
Castleford 37,000
St Helens 102,000 but with a hinterland of 469,000 (scousers)
Perpignan 116,000 (2.5m in the departement (hinterland))
Yours pedantically'"
Sorry to butt into this but can I just say that Hull has two clubs in its City so any figures mentioned about poplulation has to be halved in this discussion. (well in fact most of the population lives in the east side of the city so even half isn't a true reflection but that would be padantic! lol)
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| Quote mancknocker="mancknocker":2pmizrqdSorry to butt into this but can I just say that Hull has two clubs in its City so any figures mentioned about poplulation has to be halved in this discussion. (well in fact most of the population lives in the east side of the city so even half isn't a true reflection but that would be padantic! lol)'" can be manipulated to suit virtually any argument , and as such are not relevant to arguments like this , your one of having 2 clubs can in reality work the other way and actually increase levels of support
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"Quote Bulliac="captaincaveman"
this is expansion RFL style. zero input into the infrastructure required to sustain a top level club. nothing going into schools development or helping promote the amateur game in these areas.
where do they think the players will come from?
its a classic inverted pyramid scenario, top heavy with no foundations. thought the people running the game were intelligent business people
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Is this supposed to be a critique of the Catalans entrance into SL? If so you've got nothing right.
The Perpignan club and St. Estève who merged to form the Dragons have a long history in RL, going back to just after the end of the second world war. The whole area is a heartland of the game, complete with a semi pro league set up, several amateur clubs and schools, all playing the game. The RFL has nothing to do; the French RL has already done it.
This is where the players will come from. Infinitely better than the previous scenario where young French RL players had to move over to RU if they wanted to play as full time professionals. Not what I'd call "top heavy", on the contrary it's very well founded on a very solid basis.
It's important to remember too how a stronger European set up helps the British game, it's far from being just altruistic. With a strong France there is strong competition for England on the European scene and this will (hopefully) translate into a better prepared England for games against Australia and NZ. All this is one further reason to support them, alongside the fact that it is just the right thing to do.'"
no it wasn't it was more aimed towards the crusaders, london and gateshead(SL not the current set up)
catalans is a very different matter, they had a RL background and therefore a solid base from which to work, the demand for a club playing at the top level was already there. they then went about re-repatriating the french players playing in SL.
the other teams mentioned were chosen for their geographical location and potential, it seemed to me that the powers that be decided all we have to do is put a superleague team in london and thousands will flock to see them. it did not work like that for london/newcastle/cardiff it takes much more work to develop a succesful team than the RFL are prepared to put in
they should either do it properly or not do it at all
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"All statistics [ like the W1g4n one of 81,000 can be manipulated to suit virtually any argument , and as such are not relevant to arguments like this , your one of having 2 clubs can in reality work the other way and actually increase levels of support[/quot
I totaly agree with you.
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| Quote mancknocker="mancknocker"Sorry to butt into this but can I just say that Hull has two clubs in its City so any figures mentioned about poplulation has to be halved in this discussion. (well in fact most of the population lives in the east side of the city so even half isn't a true reflection but that would be padantic! lol)'"
Plus Hull & Wigan have Premier League football sides competing for the sport fan's money - something Saints don't, at least if their assertion that they aren't scousers is true. 
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So you are questioning what would have happened to RL if we had lost the 2 nd world war ?
I doubt we would have cared'"
I can't even find any reference to France losing WW2.
Your point is?
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"I can't even find any reference to France losing WW2.
Your point is?'"
You in training to be tb's apprentice are you
pathetic
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| Quote NS="NS"not even close...
[urlhttp://www.citypopulation.de/php/uk-england-yorkshireandthehumber.php[/url
Hull 243,000
Leeds 443,000
Wigan 81,000
Castleford 37,000
St Helens 102,000 but with a hinterland of 469,000 (scousers)
Perpignan 116,000 (2.5m in the departement (hinterland))
Yours pedantically'"
Just to be even more pedantic, that figure for Leeds is the Leeds Urban Area and not the City of Leeds and doesnt include the suburbs which are part of the City of Leeds. It is simply the figure for Urban Leeds and includes none of the suburbs which are part of the city in every way. The true figure for Leeds is about 780k,
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under""a corporate box" either it is going to be a very big box or isn't going to make much difference! Will be good to see their stadium finished off.'"
The corporate box will be for 600 people.
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| Amazing how some people think doom and gloom all the time. When I started watching Leeds in 1981 we averaged about 5 1/2 thousand. The only club to bring in serious crowds in the early 80s was Hull. The turning point for the game as a whole was the 82 Kangaroos and the end of the international transfer ban (and getting rid of the 6th tackle scrum). Comparatively speaking the game is currently in far better shape than 1982.
For those who have a dig at Quins as well, I remember the old Fulham being one of the first games I saw. To me league in London has been around a long time. The club may have morphed and moved a few times but there is a 30-year history there.
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