I Vote for chase, but ratboy will win it

Missing the hype around Chase, I've seen him put in some good set pieces but he's fairly predictable and he bottled the DG attempt which should have seen Cas in the CC final.



It's just Danny Orr all over again; stands out in a bad team but is terrible in a half way decent one.

So far the poll goes to show how close it is to call. Biased me says Robes, i personally dislike Tomkins but deeply respect him as a rugby player. Chase has carried a poor team into meritocracy almost single-handedly. All deserve the credit, shame for the two that don't win.

I dont remember orr ever being a terrible player, he looked very average at wigan because they tried to use him as a different style of player than he actually was (a bit like how they tried to use moran as an organiser). Leaving wigan was the best thing he could have done as he was allowed to play his natural game again.



Theres also the flip side of the argument would tompkins look as good in say the quins or wakey sides of this year having to get through more defensive work, be under more pressure, have less quality players around him and have less space to operate in? probably not.

Orr was above average when he was down at Quins.

Agreed.

Don't forget Roby's steely defense as well, made 1032 tackles, averaging over 40 tackles a game, despite being injured for 25% of the season.

He's missed 1 SL game, how does that equal 25% of the season?

Whose said he's missed any games, he's played about 5 or 6 games with 3 specific injuries we know of. Man of Steel stuff.

Stop stalking with triviality.

Unbelievable bias.



I actually wanted Roby to be ahead of Monaghan for MOS because of all the obsessed Wire fans making out like he's Jesus Mk.2, but with some of the posts about Roby from Saints fans, I now wish Monaghan had been in there instead of him.



Let's guess how many scoots Roby does on Saturday, I'll go for 591. Higher or lower?

If he does quite a few I would say we will come out on top.

No bias whatsoever, if you don,t accept averaging nearly 200 metres a game for 5000 metres and averaging 40 tackles a game for 1032 tackles isn,t remarkable, then I don't know what is. Tomkins is the most talented player in Superleague but I dont think he has "the Man of Steel" temperament, character, sportmanship etc. Just think Roby has the right parameters, he dosn,t milk penalties, give the V sign and feign injuries, hopefully Tomkins will mature into a great player and learn to respect the opposition (players and fans).