you seem to be confusing ESL with the Sydney Roosters game @ SFS tonight! And in the so called world capital of RL!

Sorry to hear that.



Reinforces my point.. this country needs to win something big......well ANYTHING.. big or not would be good.... to get the sport on the news and in the papers



If people 'just north of Manchester' have never heard of RL then what hope has this country got for expanding the game?

His point being that winning something might get news, maybe an article in a paper 6 pages in from the back but it would all be forgotten 48 hours later. A world cup win, hmm maybe a bit of decent exposure but RL's just not big enough

As I said before, and the point has been reiterated by others, an international win on a Saturday would be chip wrappers by Monday.



A build up of the heartland clubs to a point where they're able to average between 15k and 20k a game is what's needed. If all SL clubs could manage that then we're talking the best part of 200k a week watching the game.



Sustainable following at club level means you can then move on that foundation to build up crowds for the earlier cup rounds and build towards more interest in the international game.



It would also help to increase the player pool in this country to, hopefully, a point where we have enough quality players to be able to compete with Aus/NZ at international level.

theres more chance of hell freezing over than there is of SL clubs averaging 15/20k a game.

Precisely.



This is why the national side NEED to win a big tournament.



The general public dont care about Superleague clubs



The general public like to see England/GB win stuff.





The sports popularity would soar if England won the Rugby League World cup.



And as its being played here next what better time to do it.





Sadly for the sport it wont happen

Why is that? With the right marketing, the right ideas, the right people. Why is it so hard?



England winning something will NOT make any difference long term to rugby league's popularity in this country. Internationals are a blip at the end of the season. It's at a club level where the game needs to progress. A strong club competition will lead to a better showing on the international side

Because sadly they show games like the Crusaders v Catalans game on telly and thats peoples perception of Rugby League



More knock ons, dropped balls and wasted opportunities combined with 2 of the worst defences I've ever seen. All played out in front of about 300 people. And as a bloke who goes for Cronulla Sharks thats saying something.



No way should a game involving 2 teams who allegedly are in the top flight of Rugby League end up as 35 - 34 or whatever the score was.



Thats the sort of score you get in an under 8's game.



Terrible advert for RL.

So you think a low scoring, tactic heavy game is more likely to attract new supporters then?

to many clubs will never be big enough to average 15/20k.



internationals shouldn't be just a blip at the end of the season.

imo internationals are very important to any sport & a consistantly successful england RL team would have a big impact on the sport in this country.

you only need to look at RU to see what impact winning the WC has had on that sport.



SL is a fantastic competition but sometimes just like the championships you just wonder were its going.

Even after the RU team won the World Cup it was quickly forgotten about as everyone went back to football. With the RL team it would be even quicker. The general public in the main just don't care about anything that isn't football and that will never change.

i cant remember but think the RL world cup final was only shown live on sky last time, and i expect no different next time.



could you imagine that ever being the same regarding football or RU?



even if england won the RL world cup it would be lucky to make the back page let alone the front!

Out of a total [England only mind you of albout 50 million, so about 1/8. For RL to be seen as a major in England like it is in Australia it has to expand a lot, southward. People who think RL should be treated as a major sport without that are dreaming in technicolour.

That's because RU is a sport played throughout the country, especially down south where the media and major sponsors are all based.





RL in the UK is seen as a regional sport mostly played up north, one that's usually failed at attempts to expand, so why do you think that would change things? The English RL heartland compares more to Perth and Adelaide than Sydney and Brisbane -- would the Aussie media care much about a sport played mostly in SA and WA?