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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"There now seems to be a rugby league heading link across the top of the main sport page on their website. I don't think there was one recently?
EDIT - just read the letter, so the bloke has already made a difference. Obviously that probably won't be enough for those who just want to whinge anyway.'"
Yep, that link is new, and while it's not a contract with the BBC for headline news 4 times a month, it's a positive step for RL.
Thank fook for people like Stuart, well done mate. 
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| Quote Hessle Roader="Hessle Roader"Gutterfax. What is your beef with someone actually doing something to raise our profile. Instead of sniping at Stuart for making a real effort why not support him or would that mean you having to make some sort of effort.
Well done Stuart from the rest of the rugby league community.'"
Its called sour grapes
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| I used to think GF was a fan of our game but all he seems to do is put it down and compare it all the time with union. 
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| Quote cjhatesunion="cjhatesunion"I used to think GF was a fan of our game but all he seems to do is put it down and compare it all the time with union.
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He's clearly a troll and not even a remotely entertaining one anymore either...
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It's these kind of ridiculously negative comments for people actually trying to make a positive difference in the game that make me use this forum less and less these days. Unfortunately, GF isn't the only one that thinks this way that posts on here and quite frankly it puts me off wanting to talk about the sport on here because quite frankly the only thing that I'll achieve is depression reading it.
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| Lets be honest though, we are a multi-million pound industry, a sport with tens and some weeks hundreds of thousands of people attending pro and semi-pro games, millions watching on TV with the 2nd best viewership on the biggest sport network in the country. Thats the image we need to be portraying to the media and through the media.
Whilst one man's crusade may be very well intentioned, It doesnt really look very good, I doubt the people at the Telegraph now think RL is a bigger sport, or that there is a huge market or huge benefit to investing more in RL, it is possible it sees us in the opposite light.
We cant approach the problem we have with visibility by trying to bully papers in to giving us more coverage, we need the RFL, through the obvious channels to be showing the benefits to media outlets to cover RL.
We shouldnt expect coverage, nor do we have any entitlement to it, if the Telegraph doesnt want to cover RL, its a private company, it can choose not to, it is up to the game to make itself unmissable, its up to the game to put itself in a position where media want to cover RL, thats what we need to concentrate on.
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| Quote Chief Wigan="Chief Wigan"Quote Chief Wigan="cjhatesunion"I used to think GF was a fan of our game but all he seems to do is put it down and compare it all the time with union.
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He's clearly a troll and not even a remotely entertaining one anymore either...'"
Because I point out the areas where I think the game needs to change tact, I am now a troll........wow, outstanding assessment there......I look forward to post 193....
Quote Chief Wigan="SmokeyTA"Whilst one man's crusade may be very well intentioned, It doesnt really look very good, I doubt the people at the Telegraph now think RL is a bigger sport, or that there is a huge market or huge benefit to investing more in RL, it is possible it sees us in the opposite light. '"
So, it's not just me then......
Careful SmokeyTA, they will brand you a troll because they don't understand your point of view. Whilst well intentioned, 1 bloke having a moan at a multi million pound organisation because he doesn't agree with the contents of their paper is hardly a game changer and as has been pointed out doesn't really paint RL in a good light.
As for the Self Appointed Troll hunters....put down your pitchforks and put out your torches.....nothing to see here other than a dose of reality.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Whilst well intentioned, 1 bloke having a moan at a multi million pound organisation because he doesn't agree with the contents of their paper is hardly a game changer and as has been pointed out doesn't really paint RL in a good light.'"
I think you need to re-read your history books. You will find that there have been many occasions when one person, man or woman, has stood up to 'multi million pound organisations' and have ended up changing the world, never mind one organisation's view of the issue that is the subject of the campaign. Campaigns always begin small. That doesn't mean they stay small. But sadly the small [iminded[/i, like yourself, are always there to pull things down and undermine the good things, of which this campaign is one.
There are a growing number of people who support what Stuart is trying to do, including me. I hope he has real impact. I want to see our game noticed. I would imagine most rugby league supporters want that too.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Quote SaintsFan="gutterfax"Whilst well intentioned, 1 bloke having a moan at a multi million pound organisation because he doesn't agree with the contents of their paper is hardly a game changer and as has been pointed out doesn't really paint RL in a good light.'"
I think you need to re-read your history books. You will find that there have been many occasions when one person, man or woman, has stood up to 'multi million pound organisations' and have ended up changing the world, never mind one organisation's view of the issue that is the subject of the campaign. Campaigns always begin small. That doesn't mean they stay small. But sadly the small [iminded[/i, like yourself, are always there to pull things down and undermine the good things, of which this campaign is one.
There are a growing number of people who support what Stuart is trying to do, including me. I hope he has real impact. I want to see our game noticed. I would imagine most rugby league supporters want that too.'"
But there is a big difference. The Telegraph arent doing anything wrong by not giving RL coverage. They have made a business decision, thats it. We have no right to make 'demands' of them. Nor should he be 'at war' or having 'campaigns' against them.
There is a right way, and a wrong way to do this kind of thing.
If it was simply a matter of badgering then PR would be the easiest job in the world (its not far off the easiest job in the world, but there are people who are good at it, and others who are not so good).
Surely you must see the risk that campaigns like this, rather than sell the game as a professional multi-million pound, cutting edge, sport it makes us look small. Surely you must see that badgering and harrassing and picketing isnt going to endear you to people, its not going to make them look fondly upon the game. Its not going to make them think the game has huge support when all they see are a few 'nutters'.
You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, the game needs to put effort into increasing its visibility and definitely the visibility of its stars. A one man picket isnt the way to do it.
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| So the Daily Telegraph now has a Rugby League tab on it's website. So what?
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"
So, it's not just me then......
Careful SmokeyTA, they will brand you a troll because they don't understand your point of view. Whilst well intentioned, 1 bloke having a moan at a multi million pound organisation because he doesn't agree with the contents of their paper is hardly a game changer and as has been pointed out doesn't really paint RL in a good light.
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The difference between how Smokey put it across and how you put it across is that Smokey wasn't trying to be a patronising condescending git about his disagreement with what he is doing. He doesn't agree with him, but isn't knocking him for what he's doing.
You've offered nothing but snide comments. No suggestions on what you would do or what should be done. Just knocking someone for having a go whilst you're in the comfort of your chair behind a computer screen. Well done.
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| Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"So the Daily Telegraph now has a Rugby League tab on it's website. So what?'"
Try and answer your own question and we'll see what you can come up with...
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