Surely not? Not the RFL?

Is that the benchmark then,a 10 000 avearage crowd?Would make for a small SL.

That isnt the question though, do we have the potential to get that? yes we do with a bit of luck and some hard work.





I see your a Salford fan, that explains the feeling threatened posts.

as things stand I think its Widnes or Toulouse to replace Wakefield to be honest



but obviously there's still a long time to go before the decision is made

I have no problems with that, even though we must be the favourites not to get another franchise. Wakefield and others have had long enough to get out of date and dilapidated grounds up to a decent standard.

Toulouse will be in 2012,i will bet my mortgage on them being in.Then it will be Leigh or WIdnes and Salford and Wakefield going out.

I think your clutching at straws with leigh, unless they win some silverware next season

None of really knows the state of play with new grounds so none of us can make any kind of informed prediction.



Wakefield have an application for full planning permission being submitted within days and are reliably reported as having the funding in place for when they get it granted.

If that proves to be accurate then I can't see them being replaced.



Salford - I don't know

Cas - I don't know



I won't speculate about their demise on hearsay alone.



Bradford arn't ecactly safe and neither am I convinced that the Crusaders will be viable in two years time. But who really knows enough to make any kind of meaningull prediction.

agreed, but RFL to go to 16 teams with toulose.



a SL with widnes, toulose and Paris in and Wakey out would be very good



widnes can get to 10,000 no problems in a few years in SL

why Toulouse? They were regularly battered last season, moderate crowds, didn't make the required finals and don't look like getting in any next season. Or maybe you lot on here are finally admitting that licensing is one MASSIVE con. I'd hate to be a wakey fan on here with you lot discussing the probable demise of a club with such abandon whilst supporting the most damaging decision to ever affect our game

With BBC Sport heading for Salford, I suspect that they'll bust a gut to try to keep Salford in SL. IF Salford and Wakey are building by the time bids have to go in in 2011, then things could be very interesting. Another thought is that Richard Lewis knows that a current member of SL is either going to implode or won't be applying (bear in mind that the RFL will be privy to information that isn't available to the public).

I'd agree with that, plus Manchester's a big area the RFL will be keen to try and exploit. It's still sad how we're discussing who may get the chop because of stadia and location though.