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| Interesting tweet from Salford owner Koukash (real account) last night.....
" I am not the greatest lover of RFL or Wood. There need to be a change and need to start delivering real value"
This was from a club that didn't walk out on the vote. The RFL are dubbing the 6 clubs as the minority, but I get the feeling that they are just playing with the words to make the 6 look like outcasts. Looking at what people are posting on social media, I think that has worked to some extent, many people are calling the clubs greedy, but I'm with M@islebugs, the clubs are wanting the RFL to start looking at themselves.
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| Quote daveyz999="daveyz999" The RFL are dubbing the 6 clubs as the minority, but I get the feeling that they are just playing with the words to make the 6 look like outcasts. Looking at what people are posting on social media, I think that has worked to some extent, many people are calling the clubs greedy, but I'm with M@islebugs, the clubs are wanting the RFL to start looking at themselves.'"
If that was the case they should have had the vote then. The only logical reason they walked out was to stop the vote. I have no problem with anyone questioning the RFL, but to me they have an impossible job. When I see a sensible alternative I will happily support it. Posters want the RFL to listen to the clubs but at the same time want an authoritarian figure in charge. It's one or the other.
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| Tigs I think if the RFL were to be trusted to make the right decisions there would be no need to consult the clubs.
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| Tigs is right. You either have a process or you don't.
The general disdain for Woods and the failure to increase sponsorship is no secret within the game. Why have they waited until now to stand up? These issues should have been raised at the outset and a formal letter asking for resignations presented.
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| Should vote without them. Surely you strop off and walk out, you lose your vote? They could always vote no?
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"Sometimes change comes from revolution.
Interested to hear how other posters are seeing this. From the outside it looks like a coup. Wood/Solly have presented proposals to abandon licensing and alter structure and a number of Chairmen appear belatedly to have said the problem isn't entirely the structure - it's YOU.
There's a clamour for the return of P and R but it didn't work last time. The management of the licensing system and in particular the financial auditing of the clubs also leaves something to be desired. I haven't spoken to anyone who gets or thinks the 3 x 8 idea is a good one. GH, who normally talks sense, says the 6 Chairmen have caused chaos but it looks awfully like it was chaos anyway. What does chaos x chaos = ?'"
Pretty much agree with that.
There seems to be an assumption that the other, non-walking clubs, would vote in favour of the motion but as the vote wasn't taken, no-one can actually know this is true. The whole business of two leagues moving to three halfway through the season has always seemed an ill thought out, disaster in the making to me but they won't stop it by walking out.
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| Quote debaser="debaser"Should vote without them. Surely you strop off and walk out, you lose your vote? They could always vote no?'"
I'm not certain, but I think it meant they were not quorate so couldn't vote after the walk-out. Hence a clever tactic.
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| Quote roger daly="roger daly"Tigs I think if the RFL were to be trusted to make the right decisions there would be no need to consult the clubs.'"
Possibly it is the RFL's rules that they have to? Most of the key strategic decisions should have been, & probably were, discussed & approved by the clubs.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"I'm not certain, but I think it meant they were not quorate so couldn't vote after the walk-out. Hence a clever tactic.'"
That'll be exactly it. With any major vote like that, a "quorum" has to be in attendance. That quorum is essentially a set number or percentage of total members. If 6 of them weren't there, it's likely that quorum was not present and therefore the vote has to be delayed to another day, they can't just do it without them.
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| Quote HamsterChops="HamsterChops"That'll be exactly it. With any major vote like that, a "quorum" has to be in attendance. That quorum is essentially a set number or percentage of total members. If 6 of them weren't there, it's likely that quorum was not present and therefore the vote has to be delayed to another day, they can't just do it without them.'"
75% of clubs have to vote for the vote to count
If 6 of 14 clubs didn't vote, then only 57% of clubs could vote. As the RFL had an "Overriding" vote, then this may have been the only action clubs could have taken to ensure the new structure did not get 'Passed'.
If the above was the scenario and reason for the 'walk out', then I imagine that the atmosphere was very hostile.
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| Maybe the fact they walked out and made the situation where a vote could not be taken, meant it was a vote, a vote of no confidence in the way the RFL are ruling (or ruining) the game!
I can`t think of another major televised sport which does not have a Sponsor.
Maybe those who walked out (probably all being successful business men in their own field) realised that the current people in charge are not up to it and decided to bring it to a head.
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