agreed. the lack of noise on twitter from most of the players seems to show that they aren't too proud of last weekend. I'm not saying they should stop going out but it winds me up a bit when the players get flogged on the field and then the players are out socialising.

good idea but a bit misplaced. I would not show them the team full of internationals of yesteryear. I would show them their games where they have put the effort in eg against Leeds and Wakefield, before the next three SL games against Hull Salford and Quins, as they need to be motivated to replicate their good performances against our end of the table teams, not get demotivated by history. History is gone, there are still games to win.

Warrington actually made more tackles than Bradford last weekend, we're not getting too much right on the field at the moment. Getting back to basics would be an improvement on what was last dished up. We're playing far too flatly and I'm sure they players are not doing that in training. Hopefully Potter has the answer.

Short term targets may be the way forward. We can't try to make big leaps forwards as we aren't ready to do so.



As others have suggested - maybe throw in an extra day off as incentive for the boys if they win and concede less than 14 points?



Offer them the option of getting into training at 8:30am rather than 8am (if they've won).



If not, they get into training for 7:30am. Every week they win a game on the bounce the 30 mins goes the right way. Eg, 3 wins would result in them getting into training for 10am - 3 losses on the bounce would mean getting into training at 6:30am! Once they win / lose out of sequence they go back to 8am.



Make them all grow a beard while we are losing - they can't shave it off until we've won a game - even silly stuff might improve morale? My wife hates it when I grow a beard, I'm sure other women are the same and the last thing the players will want is the wife nagging them about facial hair just becasue they're losing!

Would of never imagined they made more tackles than us.. probably cos they scored 4 trys with out being touched and scoring early in there sets. But in all honesty everything seems to be wrong on the pitch, im sure the players have the ability im confident in that, but the way and attitude there going about it is terrible.

On that, and regarding most if not all of the players, I fully agree.



Suspect confidence is pretty low right now. Probably desperate for a motivational leader who can make them start feeling good about themselves again.



If we are wrong, then we have a problem that I cannot see the solution to.

If Tuesday is their nandos night why not make it into an official bulls night out with all the lads going, if you win Hood gets the beers in

, if you lose in the fashion we have done, Tuesday night is hills night (running up and down them, not that MTV sh*te). Just little things to get a team mentality. They need to be playing rugby with their mates for good group cohesion, otherwise it’s just going to work with your colleges.

I feel this is the best response so far and the assessment of where we are is pretty spot on, imo.



I'm not sure about Leon though, particularly as skipper. As a stand off he's fine but whilst he can always pull off some pretty exciting plays, he's a not really a creative player in the sense of bringing out the best in others, though he might be a good player to work alongside Herbert which would leave Kearney free to take on his best position at the back. Leon does, and always has, had a habit of 'disappearing' during games too, not the best way for a captain to lead a team.



I've no problem with the type of player we could do with, though our biggest problem would be convincing a player of that standard that his future would be best served by him joining our club. I know we fans often think players (especially imports) are just after the money, but to be honest I don't think that's entirely true and that might be our biggest recruitment problem. There's certainly nothing to be lost in trying though.

I beg to differ.



All the anecdotal evidence is the Leon Pryce wants to play for the Bulls. He still lives up the road, attends Bulls matches when Saints aren't playing, and has apparently said that he wants to play for us.



I think it could be an inspired move to make him captain and, in effect, make the point that we are building our team around him. After all our lack of willingness to do that was a contributing factor in him leaving, I believe. By making him our 'main man' we might just give him the spur to really take on the leadership role that we so desperately need.

I think this has been covered below but they should have probably used some common sense and not mentioned Nando's tuesday this week. As mentioned they can't be banned from going out but tweeting about 'smashing a feed' or words to that effect are not clever

The accusation was made, more than once, though last season by players in the T&A, not by me, and followed performances similar to those seen this season. I know it can sometimes [ilook[/i as if players are not putting it all in, and appearances can be deceptive, and I'd always like to think they are busting a gut however wrong it's going - but it was worrying and sobering to read fellow players admitting as much.



There has been no such comment that I've seen this season, but there have been the Salford and Wire "efforts".



Wouldn't disagree with much of the rest of your post at all.

I would start by asking everyone to be more aggressive when defending.



Instead of allowing the opposition to run sideways across the pitch, they should all be moving up and meeting the attacking team.



Last couple of home games has shown the team to be sitting back and waiting for the attackers to meet them.



Every play should see the team meet the opposition at least 5 yards from where they started.



Moving up should stop teams catching us out wide, after 2 passes, we should be ready for contact.



Aggression is the key to confidence, and a good time to get in the opposition's faces will be against Halifax, then take the confidence into the next game (that's if they can match fax's forwards).



I think the lads will build confidence together in their defending (as they rightly did against castleford and catalan). It's a great feeling, knowing the team is dominating the collision.