He doesn't half make me scratch my head, does Nathan. Why on earth would you favour Ashe again over Speakman?



Walker's back, which could be interesting given his 109 tackles in 2.5 games, we've got an awful lot of weight up front, even without TP. I think we should be able to grind them down with that, but I'm worried about lack of service from dummy half.

We're missing Roby, Lomax and TP, who are our main magic men. Who knows what we'll do without them.



As I've said before, I just worry these days that Wigan will simply out enthuse Saints inthe derby.

As they have for some time. Doesnt really fill you with confidence when your hear Brown saying it's just 2 points and the Ape is frothing at the mouth about beating us

I'm sure what Brown is saying behind closed doors to the team is very different, and there are enough people in the squad and backroom who know the score.



There's no point getting into a media slanging match with the ape before kick off - Widnes tried that and it didn't go all that well . . . . .

True , I just hope the lads are fired up

It's because Baron Greenback knows that this will be the height of their season.

Wellens at 6 might not be the end of the world. He does shovel the ball a bit, but he could be a calming influence and if it means that we go with pace at #1, then things might work out ok........

Charnock can play F/B too can't he? as can Ashe... It's not all doom and gloom yet

Just posted in the other thread my friend has just watched the captains run and he saw



Wello and Flash sharing 9/13



Charnock 6



Makinson 1



Percival in at centre



Jones in the back row

Exciting.

Where does Howarth fit into all this?

I'd assume he'd make the bench at best

I hope not, Speakman should play ahead of him.