In 2 of those 4 years we finished top and in the other 2 we finished second? How is that "bobbing under the top teams?"



And I wouldn't call making the GF in four consecutive years a "decent run in the play-offs". I'd call it qualifying for the biggest game of the year four years on the spin.

Yes you qualified for the game which is a lot more than other teams which could be mentioned.



...but what could better exemplify a team of "nearly men" than falling at the final hurdle for four years on the trot?

Since when was "bobbing under the top teams" and "decent run in the play-offs" spelt "nearly men"?



Heaven forbid you completely change what you were saying.

We've finished in the top 2 for the last six seasons and been to the Grand Final for five years on the spin.



Some people are getting way ahead of themselves, forgetting the facts. We set the standard in Superleague. Everyone else is simply catching up (except Bradford, who are sliding further and further away ...).

I'm sorry, I was paraphrasing the question posed in original message.

ie.



"Are we now the Superleagues nearly men? "



I hope that helps.

No question, but that is still much better than Wire who are Super League's "never get close and sometimes miss the play-offs entirely" men.

About that, I can not argue with you.

Nice to see a bit of spirit in the Saints fans. I thought we had all lost hope after last week.

We had! But it's amazing how hope springs eternal.

Yeh get stuck in there, it's only the wire, we'll hammer them.

Warrington are lightyears behind Saints and an eternity away from being anywhere near Wigan in terms of there past, trophies, size of club, the lot.



Warrington - STILL the Manchester City of Rugby League.

Why are you obsessed? Ivery post you make refers to Warrington, insulting the team or supporters...worried are we?