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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"Sia was out for nearly his first full season with an ankle injury look at him now! Plus He'll have his mate Sia here as well'"
Sia just loves it here and fitted in. Not many players settle in like he did, let's hope Mose is one of them that fit in like he did.
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| I had high hopes for last year, so I'm trying to keep my optimism in a reasonable check.
We've recruited well, but we still have a fragile squad in some areas and I think the key to our success will actually hinge on how some of our current squad members perform and are used -
LMS - Showed wonderful form at the end of the season after a pathetic start. He is actually a very influential player for us. When he gears up and plays like he should, Saints as a whole are lifted.
Hohaia - Will all the good work by our new 1st receiver be wasted by Lance slowing everything down at 2nd? Will he continue to panic outwide in defence?
Wilkin - Is he realistically good enough to be selected in the backrow infornt of other, physically more capable players? Any game where Brown went with 3 pivots (+ fullback) last year was a disaster. IMO should be playing 6 (if not sold to Salford for some nice reddies).
Wellens - Not as good a fullback as Lomax, not as good a forward as a whole bunch of Saints players, not as good a half back as, well.....
If Brown insists on shoehorning him in somewhere, it will 4/5 times weaken our 17.
Boof - Time to step up, kangaroo.
Finishing inside the top 4 and a decent show in the cup is the minimum this squad should be achieving.
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"I'm surprised and happy to hear wheeler is training - though I'm slightly confused as to why at centre'" Brown probably doesn't trust him to stay fit. If Lance is our other option at 6, then he needs all the training park time he can get. There's no point in letting Wheeler run there, only to drop out injured and leave Lance undercooked.
We've more genuine depth at centre, so he perhaps thinks its less of a problem if Wheeler crocks out again.
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| Quote Offside Monkey="Offside Monkey"Brown probably doesn't trust him to stay fit. If Lance is our other option at 6, then he needs all the training park time he can get. There's no point in letting Wheeler run there, only to drop out injured and leave Lance undercooked.
We've more genuine depth at centre, so he perhaps thinks its less of a problem if Wheeler crocks out again.'"
If wheeler can't last a game at centre, then he's no chance at stand off where he's more involved.
Shame really as he's got good potential, he's a natural attacking player what we need at 6 and he's a top lad.
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| This Masoe situation got Josh Perry written a over it. Big guy, big rep, no pre season and will prob pick little niggles up when he gets back
Only thing in our favour is his age. Perry was nearing the end of his career but Mose not hit his peak yet.
Fingers crossed it's not as bad.
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| Injuries happen. Can't blame the club or the big fella for that. How you shape up afterwards is attitude. Fitness is these guys job. Pay me to go to gym everyday. I'll be whatever shape you want.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Injuries happen. Can't blame the club or the big fella for that. How you shape up afterwards is attitude. Fitness is these guys job. Pay me to go to gym everyday. I'll be whatever shape you want.'"
I believe he put a stone and half on from the end of the season with the panthers until the kiwi game in the World Cup. Apparently he was tipping the scales at 20st!
Just think what 4 month sat on his backside could do! We could have the heaviest super league player if all time!
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I believe he put a stone and half on from the end of the season with the panthers until the kiwi game in the World Cup. Apparently he was tipping the scales at 20st!
Just think what 4 month sat on his backside could do! We could have the heaviest super league player if all time!'"
Calories in; Calories out.
It's an ankle injury. Nothing to stop arm exercises, till he can walk on it. Plenty of arm bicycles at the gym I go to, will work cardio as well.
Plenty of athletic Wheelchair sports men and women.
Nothing against the guy being big, that's why we bought him.
I'm sure as a pro with the Saints conditioning team they will have already done all this. It's about managing yourself to your conditions. I would not expect him to be doing sprints in 4 weeks, but neither would I expect his fitness to be less than what it needs to be. You do what you can to keep in as best condition as you can. If that means eating less and spending longer doing other types of Cardio for the same result then that's what has to be done.
I'm not saying it's easy, but then neither are plenty of peoples jobs and they get paid a lot less doing things a lot nastier.
I'm not assuming anything about the man himself, but there should be no excuses either, we are not talking a completely incapacitating injury. And even then diet can be controlled.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Calories in; Calories out.
It's an ankle injury. Nothing to stop arm exercises, till he can walk on it. Plenty of arm bicycles at the gym I go to, will work cardio as well.
Plenty of athletic Wheelchair sports men and women.
Nothing against the guy being big, that's why we bought him.
I'm sure as a pro with the Saints conditioning team they will have already done all this. It's about managing yourself to your conditions. I would not expect him to be doing sprints in 4 weeks, but neither would I expect his fitness to be less than what it needs to be. You do what you can to keep in as best condition as you can. If that means eating less and spending longer doing other types of Cardio for the same result then that's what has to be done.
I'm not saying it's easy, but then neither are plenty of peoples jobs and they get paid a lot less doing things a lot nastier.
I'm not assuming anything about the man himself, but there should be no excuses either, we are not talking a completely incapacitating injury. And even then diet can be controlled.'"
My point is, why did he turn up at the World Cup so heavy and out of shape?
Doesn't seem the type to watch what he eats and to train. If he can't keep in shape when he's not injured, I can't see him staying in shape when he can't walk.
I'll know more on his injury later today.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"My point is, why did he turn up at the World Cup so heavy and out of shape?
Doesn't seem the type to watch what he eats and to train. If he can't keep in shape when he's not injured, I can't see him staying in shape when he can't walk.
I'll know more on his injury later today.'"
Quite possibly his pre-season cycle - he judged being ready for pre season at his new club more important than maintaining peak fitness for the World Cup? Only problem is it backfired and he picked up an injury ...
Not sure you can make judgements about a guy like he doesn't seem to watch what he eats when at best you've just met the guy ... He's a professional, until I hear/ see otherwise, I will assume himself and the conditioning team know what they're doing ...
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"Quite possibly his pre-season cycle - he judged being ready for pre season at his new club more important than maintaining peak fitness for the World Cup? Only problem is it backfired and he picked up an injury ...
Not sure you can make judgements about a guy like he doesn't seem to watch what he eats when at best you've just met the guy ... He's a professional, until I hear/ see otherwise, I will assume himself and the conditioning team know what they're doing ...'"
I'm just presenting the facts he puts a hell of a lot of weight on during pre-season and when he's out injured. That suggests he's not the greatest pro but I don't care what he does off the field as long as he can perform every week.
I personally think pro players in any sport should maintain weight and keep a relatively high standard of fitness.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I'm just presenting the facts he puts a hell of a lot of weight on during pre-season and when he's out injured. That suggests he's not the greatest pro but I don't care what he does off the field as long as he can perform every week.
I personally think pro players in any sport should maintain weight and keep a relatively high standard of fitness.'"
It's impossible to maintain match fitness throughout the offseason, and a lot of players will be more than a few kilos off their playing weight at this moment, your body cycles mean it has to.
I'm not saying that I know he's going for sure it is just the body cycle and he's going to lose it, all we have is his penrith playing weight, and I can only assume he's aiming for that
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