You mean like Anderson in his first year?

Woah, Woah, Woah.



Have you not read the warnings that common sense is not welcome round here.



I am going to rename the site KneeJerkers.com

Yes i would.

Noble is not a good enough coach for clubs like Wigan and Saints.



He could do a great job at Celtic, Salford, Quins....

i agree with this, he can coach a team, but isn't very good at squad building, which teams like wigan 4/5 years ago and saints now, need

I don't understand how you can say he hasn't improved us in the last 3 years. Are you not aware of what position we was in before he took over? I'm pretty sure you aren't that clueless. We may not have made any finals but we have almoast been there which is a dam sight better than before he was here. Our youth system has also improved since Noble's been here from the 18's, 21's and plenty of those who have featured in the first team under Noble.

Noble is a good coach as his record shows. People forget he's taken Wigan 80 mins from the last 2 grand finals and his record at bulls is also pretty good.



On noble not building a good squad, I wonder how many of wigans signings have come from noble.

Since he came we've been 80 minutes from the grand final (twice) and eighty minutes from the Challenge Cup final (twice).



The reserves last year won the grand final and are through again this year.

Th academy team reached the grand final last year and are through to the elimination semi this weekend after finishing second in their league (with a very young side)



I'd give Noble one more year but it isn't going to happen. Watch out for a big shake up in the coaching regime(s) at Wigan.

Correct, I can say in very high confidence that Piggy wasn't Noble's first choice. Noble wanted Ennis who signed for the Dogs but IL wouldn't pay the money, however Nobby did want Higham out though and the pig is an improvement on Higham but needs to improve more next year.



I think K Pryce is definitely an IL signing, although worked together at Bradford IL made his reasons quite clear at a recent shareholders meeting as to why he gave Pryce another year extension, my doubts still remain on him.



I think Phelps was a Noble signing, he seems to be a player very much like Withers who can play in a variety of positions and has found his spot at fullback, also along with Carmont who with those 2 have been a couple of shrewed pieces of business thus far. There have been a couple of bad signings like Withers, Mathers, Smith but all where gambles that didn't pay off and wouldn't have been on a big wage anywah compared to other senior players. I'd personally like to see Noble given another year or 2 at least as its 2010 and 11 when another 2 or 3 of the higher paid players will be off contract, which Noble didn't have any control of previously.



In all I'm pleased with the job Noble has done at Wigan and although we haven't won anything we have certainly moved forward since he took over.

I think Wigan's youngsters would get to GFs playing in their slippers. What is surprising is how few of them Noble has brought up to Super League. He seemed reluctant to promote Tomkins and has kept back Ainscough. Compare that to Saints or Leeds and it's clear that Noble focuses on SL so he's not a good choice to build a club. Celtic beware.

How do you work that out?

What about Prescott, McIlorum, OCarroll, Joel Tomkins and Harrison Hansen.



How come all those great Saints youngsters Dean, Wheeler, Ellis, Ashurst and Dixon were playing against Wigan reserves on Saturday?

Rubbish, Sam Tomkins had already started more games than Tim Smith even whilst he was here before his injury at Hull KR, 9-7 in fact and even then Sam was on the bench if Smith was starting. If Sam was starting Tim Smith had been dropped to the reserves due to poor performances and was struggling to get back into the first team. Shaun Ainscough got found out in a couple of key games where we should have won, and even when he scored 4 tries, against Wakey away he still has got plenty of work improve on. Noble in his time has either brought through or developed players into better players: Prescott, McIlorum, Sam Tomkins, Mark Flanagan, Joel Tomkins (who Millward almoast ruined ) , Lee Mossop, O'Carroll, Ainscough (still developing).



That's 8 players in Nobles time that he has brought into the first team which for me is a good amount as you are finding out for yourselves and we have in the past that you can't bring in to many.