Hazard, Aguero, Silva, Ozil, Sanchez, Coutouis, De Gea, Fabregas, Toure, Coutinho, De Bruyne, Cech, Kompany to name a few. Others could be named but might be met with question marks so I won't bother.



Big thing is that the likes of Real, Barca, Bayern feature a lot of top players in the squads, but if you look past those couple of top teams towards the rest of their leagues then not so much.

So not that many really and how many of them are Suarez, Mesi, Ronaldo class i.e truly world class? About as many as Barca and Real Madrid combined?



Given as you say La Liga doesn't possess strength in depth it must have been a surprise that of the 4 teams that competed in the finals of the European competitions this season 3 were Spanish? The Spanish have won the Europa league 3 times out of the last 4 - not featuring either Barca or Real Madrid and the champions league the last 3 times. If the league doesn't have strength in depth but can compete at this level what does it really say the PL?

Last time I checked both leagues contained 20 teams so pointing out the strength of 4 top teams doesn't disprove anything about the strength in depth from top to BOTTOM. I don't think anyone would argue that Barca and Madrid are stronger than our strongest teams but that isn't the point.



Pointing to three players (Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez) from just two clubs again doesn't tell us anything about the leagues as a whole.

England football "oh we don't have a winter break so we're too tired"...."oh too many foreigners so we have too small a player pool to pick from"...."oh the grass roots at junior level is all wrong"



A Wales team made up from Premier League and quite a few Championship players barring Bale that has all the obstacles of above and they've made it to the Semi Finals unlike the bunch of excuse making prima donnas in the Emgland camp.

Yet England still beat them - bizarre.



Wales have great team spirit and Bale/Ramsey apart they don't seem so naturally talented as the English players so concentrate on keeping it simple. Oh they don't have manager who doesn't have a clue.

coleman failed as a manager elsewhere. in any team sport if you have a coach, who may not be top class, but who can organise and set out a hard to beat game plan, and a team who can follow that to the letter, you have a good chance. in RL I guess john kear would be colemans equivalant

Watched "Mike Bassett, England Manager" last night. I think England should definitely have adopted the Christmas Pudding formation against Iceland.

It's interesting to note that as Fulham manager Coleman got sacked when he had them deep in relegation trouble. Lawrie Sanchez came in and saved them that season but was gone mid way through the next season and Roy Hodgson came in saved them, finished 7th in his first full season and took them to a Europa League final where they lost narrowly to Athletico Madrid in extra time.



So Hodgson took a team that Chris Coleman almost relegated to the Europa League final in 3 years.

Excellent idea. Rooney can be the six pence, Sterling still has it "in his pocket", although Harry Kane couldn't hit the side door of a Renault espasse

Perhaps one of them has learned something from that experience and has improved as a manager from that set back and one of them - the less said the better would you not agree?

Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Excellent idea. Rooney can be the six pence, Sterling still has it "in his pocket", although Harry Kane couldn't hit the side door of a Renault espasse '" I think Harry Kane's been overshadowed in the embarrassing set pieces stakes by Simone Zaza's penalty for Italy last night.....good god what was he thinking with that run up? He looked like a horse trotting in a dressage competition. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIM_zn_O84

Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Excellent idea. Rooney can be the six pence, Sterling still has it "in his pocket", although Harry Kane couldn't hit the side door of a Renault espasse '" I think Harry Kane's been overshadowed in the embarrassing set pieces stakes by Simone Zaza's penalty for Italy last night.....good god what was he thinking with that run up? He looked like a horse trotting in a dressage competition. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIM_zn_O84

Four, four, f******g two!