I might be wrong but I think it could be her. Not that it changes anything but I am tempted to say "Calm down Dear!"

If so I apologise in advance, however my point still stands!

We've actually got a threat near to the line!! On 2 fronts as well. Firstly McShane's vision and sharpness of pass to the wingers, secondly his low centre of gravity and nouse around the ruck. Cunningham in his peak would damn near guarantee a try when he decided to go from dummy half, just with his raw power. Not sure McShane is in the same league but there are some very encouraging signs.



One of my main criticisms of Leeds has been that we never ever barge our way over the line. Peacock does it now and then, but apart from that we haven't really had anyone do it since Wayne McDonald. Bradford used to score hundreds of tries with this in their glory years, so it's good to see us carrying a threat near the line at the moment.

Agree with all that apart from...did Wayne MacDonald ever really barge his way over very often?



Ablett is pretty good getting over close to the line in tight situations

If you look at my post again, though, I acknowledge that he is raw and inexperienced. I did speak about talent. Some players just jump out as raw talent (in first grade terms, in this instance). He may not go anywhere, a lot of young players don't. But he may well do so. It is possible to be impressed by raw talent and proven talent simultaneously.

Twice in the 70-0 at home to Saints.... But apart from that I can't really remember any

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Chris Feather did it at home to the Bulls when we beat the 26-12 in 2004. What a player that man could have been had he any heart whatsoever..

And the Saints players who've impressed you in the last 5 years?

Are completely irrelevant.



You have a whole thread dedicated to Paul McShane. Therefore, clearly your own fans have been impressed by him. I hope to see him in an England shirt one day. You never know, he could end up being as good a hooker as Keiron Cunningham was.

No, it will give us some perspective as to why someone like Peacock and McGuire have been unable to impress you.

The biggest back track ever.



I want to know how many Saints players impressed you during the period where we beat you in 3 consecutive Grand Finals and only had one impressive player.



On Macca - he could be very good. He'll have to go some to get near KC though

Damn right. But he is only at the start of his career at first grade. Plenty of time yet. He's looking good though.

Wonder how far off an England call of he may be now actually, if he can continue the way he's going and put in a couple of performances against the bigger sides then he must be very close to challenging for a jersey. Apart from Roby I can't think of any other hookers who have been outstanding so far this season.