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| Some classless **** on here, 'man up' seriously?! I went through similar with an ex having a termination against my will and it just about tore me apart, wouldnt wish it on anyone. Wish Zak all the best.
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| Quote Stevosfalseteeth="Stevosfalseteeth"Definitely a bad egg. Running from his problems. Needs to man up. Compare what kids in Syria go through to this egotistical, self centred clown. Life isn't always a bed of roses Son'"
Wow...
This is the reason why some people don't speak about mental health issues. 'Just man up' yes that's really going to help someone who's struggling... why didn't they think about that before, 3 words and hey they're cured.
Would you tell someone suffering from a physical illness or disability to man up too?
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| Quote invmatt="invmatt"Wow...
This is the reason why some people don't speak about mental health issues. 'Just man up' yes that's really going to help someone who's struggling... why didn't they think about that before, 3 words and hey they're cured.
Would you tell someone suffering from a physical illness or disability to man up too?'"
Well put. Mental health problems and suicide are the biggest killer in men under 45 and the 'man up' types only add to the stigma.
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| Quote invmatt="invmatt"Wow...
This is the reason why some people don't speak about mental health issues. 'Just man up' yes that's really going to help someone who's struggling... why didn't they think about that before, 3 words and hey they're cured.
Would you tell someone suffering from a physical illness or disability to man up too?'"
Mental health? He split from his missus (she did what she thought was best obviously) and he turned to drink. You can't just decide to not go to work and run all the way to Australia for a few months to forget your problems. Sometimes stuff goes wrong in life and you HAVE to cope. My lack of sympathy probably stems from seeing family members go through far worse than this idiot.
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| Quote Stevosfalseteeth="Stevosfalseteeth"Mental health? He split from his missus (she did what she thought was best obviously) and he turned to drink. You can't just decide to not go to work and run all the way to Australia for a few months to forget your problems. Sometimes stuff goes wrong in life and you HAVE to cope. My lack of sympathy probably stems from seeing family members go through far worse than this idiot.'"
Seriously? I hope your family are all OK now but things have moved on in society. Depression isn't just something you can pull yourself off and it affects everyone differently. I actually think he did man up by dressing the issues. With the crowd he was in and the rut, he could have spiralled out of control but he spoke up. I wish him all the best and hope he means what he says.
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| There is a world of difference between mental health issues and a guy drinking constantly cos he has some issues going on.
If Zak had started drinking because of this i would understand but he had been drinking heavily and partying for at least 2 years before and while things were ok with his girlfriend. This wasnt the first time he had been drinking and missing training.
Look at the World Cup. He was on verge of been kicked out a week before he was until Sinfield begged for him to be given another chance only to have Zak throw it in his face the following weekend. Was that a mental health issue too or just an immature unprofessional kid???
As always with Zak its never his fault, theres never an apology and theres never a lesson learned.
This interview is one side of the story. I know the other players had given up on Zak in the end and clearly the club had at this point too.
Unfortunately he is contracted for 3 more years and i cant see anyone buying him out of that. Hopefully this time away will have matured him a little bit and he realises his errors but i doubt it very much.
I sympathise with what he has been thru but honestly believe this is more a maturity issue than a mental health one from what i know of the situation.
I wish him well but hope he finds another club and moves on personally.
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| Quote Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"There is a world of difference between mental health issues and a guy drinking constantly cos he has some issues going on.
If Zak had started drinking because of this i would understand but he had been drinking heavily and partying for at least 2 years before and while things were ok with his girlfriend. This wasnt the first time he had been drinking and missing training.
Look at the World Cup. He was on verge of been kicked out a week before he was until Sinfield begged for him to be given another chance only to have Zak throw it in his face the following weekend. Was that a mental health issue too or just an immature unprofessional kid???
As always with Zak its never his fault, theres never an apology and theres never a lesson learned.
This interview is one side of the story. I know the other players had given up on Zak in the end and clearly the club had at this point too.
Unfortunately he is contracted for 3 more years and i cant see anyone buying him out of that. Hopefully this time away will have matured him a little bit and he realises his errors but i doubt it very much.
I sympathise with what he has been thru but honestly believe this is more a maturity issue than a mental health one from what i know of the situation.
I wish him well but hope he finds another club and moves on personally.'" spot on
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| Hope he returns to us and has many more successful years at HQ. Wish him all the very best with his current situation.
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| If Hardaker's account is right, then he's definitely done the right thing getting away, even if for a while. It also begs the question why the club didn't give him time off instead of playing him when he was in no fit state. There's nothing there to suggest the club offered him much support at all.
However, he does seem to (understandably) want to paint himself in as good a light as possible. Given what he's said previously about being tied to a nasty 4-year contract I'm not sure I quite believe his woe is me story.
Either way Leeds shouldn't have played him as much as we did this year, its no surprise he hasn't set the world on fire at the Panthers, and all parties would probably be best served if he stayed in the NRL.
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| How many players who've got tainted reputations ever take responsibility for their actions and come out and say things like 'I've been an idiot, I've acted irresposibily, I've acted immaturely and been a bit selfish, I've let fame and fortune go to my head and got carried away, I've made some bad decisions'
How many come out with 'I was in a dark place? I didn't want to leave my house (though they manage to get out to the pub), I was lonely and felt I had no where to turn, I was doing it tough, I've suffered with depression'....
The 2nd set of responses are much more common, much easier to throw out there, and bring a much more sympathetic and accepting response - almost wipes the slate clean for misbehaviour immediately.
No doubt the do-gooders will claim me saying this is 'adding stigma', but that's BS. People with genuine mental health issues should be given all the help and respect in the world. I've seen first hand the trauma caused and have nothing but heart felt well wishes for anyone suffering.
But on the flip side, I can't help but feel A-holes who act like a goose on numerous occasions over a sustained period of time, who then suddenly find the 'courage' to speak about their depression when they need some positive press deserve the cynicism they get.
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| Could feel sorry for him apart from the story keeps changing every few weeks so never know what is being said is true .
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| Quote Stevosfalseteeth="Stevosfalseteeth"Definitely a bad egg. Running from his problems. Needs to man up. Compare what kids in Syria go through to this egotistical, self centred clown. Life isn't always a bed of roses Son'"
Wow which cave did you wake up in this morning?
Compare any of our issues to some kids in Syria and they will look trivial.
The idea that we all need to man up is luddite thinking - yes he was/is an immature young man who just happened to be in the public eye. Why do we expect young men who happen to play a high profile sport to act any differently to other young men who live less public lives.
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